2009/10/5 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Mike N. wrote:
I recently set out to do an all-inclusive map of a section of town.
Perhaps I'm unfortunate enough to live in a city of lawyers, but it seems
that a large entire section of town consists of law offices. I can't
believe
I used shop=solicitor because I had heaps of stuff to put on the map and
no
time to do any exhaustive search. Any tag I found on the wiki later I
adjusted
to a generally used one.
I'm quite happy to change my tag to shop=lawyer.
I'm not an English native speaker, maybe that's why
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I'm not an English native speaker, maybe that's why shop=lawyer sounds
strange to me. All lawyers that I know of I'd actually consider
offices, not shops.
I am not discussing the actual tag. I'm discussing the complete ease with
which something
2009/10/7 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I'm not an English native speaker, maybe that's why shop=lawyer sounds
strange to me. All lawyers that I know of I'd actually consider
offices, not shops.
I am not discussing the actual tag. I'm
Mike N. schrieb:
The delay in rendering is irritating but understandable. A sandbox with a
limit of a view ways/areas to allow immediate render would be extremely
useful.
I read somewhere today that someone is working on this - a web site where
you'll be able to designate a bounding
On 05/10/2009, at 7:54 PM, David Earl wrote:
* Three new primitives, tagkey for describing the k part of tags,
tagvalue for the v part of tags and tagdescription separated off to
allow for multiple descriptions in multiple languages without having
to
download all the data for languages
On 06/10/2009 13:35, James Livingston wrote:
I can see things getting ickier than they are now if you can just go
around adding new shop= values, without having some prior discussion
to what it means. If I saw a suggested option in an editor, I would
generally assume that there is some
On 06/10/2009, at 10:58 PM, David Earl wrote:
On 06/10/2009 13:35, James Livingston wrote:
I can see things getting ickier than they are now if you can just
go around adding new shop= values, without having some prior
discussion to what it means. If I saw a suggested option in an
Joseph Booker wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:02:05 +1100
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Joseph Booker wrote:
Not sure if you are trolling or just
not aware of the wiki, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and
assume the latter.
I wouldn't say that this guy is trolling at
Egil Hjelmeland wrote:
OSM is a community of volunteers. So neither bureaucracy or
dictatorship is probably the way to go. I would guess that forking
off a “tagging” mail group with a strict “keep-to-topic” policy
would be the way to proceed.
I've asked for a tagging mailing list to be
On Mon, October 5, 2009 15:36, Lester Caine wrote:
snip
( Egil - a little aside, while a check box for boolean would be nice,
there is still an element of 'NULL' - that is in addition to setting a
boolean tag, one still needs to decide if it should or should not be
present )
Checkboxes these
Andrew Errington wrote:
On Mon, October 5, 2009 15:36, Lester Caine wrote:
snip
( Egil - a little aside, while a check box for boolean would be nice,
there is still an element of 'NULL' - that is in addition to setting a
boolean tag, one still needs to decide if it should or should not be
On 05/10/2009 00:12, Egil Hjelmeland wrote:
As a mapper, I want a much more structured, well defined tagging scheme.
Steve started a discussion on the dev list in which I proposed just such
a scheme/schema. Since there's been several discussions on talk healding
in this direction, I'll send it
2009/10/5 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk:
On Mon, October 5, 2009 15:36, Lester Caine wrote:
snip
( Egil - a little aside, while a check box for boolean would be nice,
there is still an element of 'NULL' - that is in addition to setting a
boolean tag, one still needs to decide
2009/10/5 Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no:
Every key should be assigned a type (or class). Could be:
- boolean
- enumeration
- numeric
- string
- free text.
Boolean is yes/no. Editor tools should present a Boolean key as a checkbox.
there is IMHO no boolean values in OSM. Feel
David Earl david at frankieandshadow.com writes:
I think it would be really helpful to bring together the tag definitions
into one place, *in the database and API itself*. I mean a complete
schema: the tags, their possible values, their descriptions (in multiple
languages), their equivalences
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is IMHO no boolean values in OSM. Feel free to give counter
examples.
The arguments for how to tag a footway and a cycleway contain a number of
boolean examples.
Either you are permitted to drive a car down the footway, or you are not.
You
David Earl wrote:
I think it would be really helpful to bring together the tag definitions
into one place, *in the database and API itself*. I mean a complete
schema: the tags, their possible values, their descriptions (in multiple
languages), their equivalences both in other languages and
2009/10/5 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is IMHO no boolean values in OSM. Feel free to give counter
examples.
The arguments for how to tag a footway and a cycleway contain a number of
boolean examples.
Either you are permitted to drive a car
On 05/10/2009 11:43, Lester Caine wrote:
Rather than all these separate elements, tag values should form part of
the tagkey object, and descriptions can be added at any level. I need to
find the link to a good example, but
tag name='barrier' type='value' relevantto='node'
tagvalue
And I think this gets changed as other objects in the database get
changed: freely but consciously. So if there is a new value for shop, it
is a conscious act to add that to the list of values for shop, and to
describe it, not just casually adding it as a tag value.
Let me be quite clear
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:25:37 +0100
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
I think though - we need to define a proper xsl schema wjich can
be used WITH the tag data :(
OK, benefit of the doubt goes out the window at this point. If you are
going to say you hate XML with any credibility,
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:12:41 +0200
Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no wrote:
I started mapping my local mountain village in Norway a month ago. I
find the fundamental OSM data model very simple and elegant: The
three basic elements (node, way/area, relation), and properties as
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Mike N. wrote:
I recently set out to do an all-inclusive map of a section of town.
Perhaps I'm unfortunate enough to live in a city of lawyers, but it seems
that a large entire section of town consists of law offices.I can't
believe I'm not the first person to want to
You have described an interesting example of the difficulties of wishing
to be
a conformist on OSM and I have described the example of how easy it is to
be
an anarchist.
The only reason for wanting to be a conformist is the possibility for
more meaningful rendering sooner. Currently,
Mike N. wrote:
So, I've revised my
approach to placing non-rendering shop types on the building outline where
the name= tag will be shown.
If I understand you correctly your mapping/tagging so the name is
displayed along the outline of the shop.
unknown boundaries also do this.
I
So, I've revised my approach to placing non-rendering shop types on the
building outline where the name= tag will be shown.
If I understand you correctly your mapping/tagging so the name is
displayed along the outline of the shop.
I add a building=yes which renders the building
Mike N. wrote:
I find it difficult to be a monk who labors away at a mountain of XML
that may see the light some day. I also like to show people what I am
working on - it doesn't need to be fancy, but I also use it to double check
my work. Just as reading your essay in reverse helps
The delay in rendering is irritating but understandable. A sandbox with a
limit of a view ways/areas to allow immediate render would be extremely
useful.
I read somewhere today that someone is working on this - a web site where
you'll be able to designate a bounding rectangle with near
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
The delay in rendering is irritating but understandable. A sandbox with a
limit of a view ways/areas to allow immediate render would be extremely
useful.
I read somewhere today that someone is working on this - a web site
Ian Dees wrote:
I don't see much of a rendering delay with Mapnik... the last few
changesets I've uploaded have shown up on the Mapnik layer within 5
minutes.
I think it depends greatly on the time of day maybe where you are in
the world.
Does anyone know if the servers are all in one
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Ian Dees wrote:
I don't see much of a rendering delay with Mapnik... the last few
changesets I've uploaded have shown up on the Mapnik layer within 5
minutes.
I think it depends greatly on the time of day maybe
I started mapping my local mountain village in Norway a month ago. I
find the fundamental OSM data model very simple and elegant: The three
basic elements (node, way/area, relation), and properties as key-value
pairs. But I don’t like that free-form tagging has been elevated to a
Religion.
As
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:12:41 +0200
Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no wrote:
[A lot of stuff here]
Short answer to a long mail:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/No:Map_Features (even with approved,
proposed, rejected, etc prefixes).
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Joseph Booker wrote:
Not sure if you are trolling or just
not aware of the wiki, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and
assume the latter.
I wouldn't say that this guy is trolling at all, but has put a lot of thought
into his mail.
I don't find your quick answers
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:02:05 +1100
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Joseph Booker wrote:
Not sure if you are trolling or just
not aware of the wiki, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and
assume the latter.
I wouldn't say that this guy is trolling at all, but has put
Hello all,
I've got to the point in my local area [1] where most of the roads etc. are
mapped and now I'd like to start fleshing out the local countryside. Now,
since a huge amount of the countyside is farmland I've been lookin into how
to best tag it. However, currently we are somewhat
Just thinking off the top of my head, it would be useful to be able to tag:
perminant irregation booms
dug outs
feed lots (and maybe predominant wind direction ;-)
Cheers,
Mungewell.
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