Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-21 Thread Ulf Möller
Russ Nelson schrieb: > Oh, look, we have 99% of all roads in the US in OSM. Can you say that > about any other country besides the exceptional Germany and the (dare > I say it) imported Netherlands? In German cities we have 90-100% of the roads, but it's not that good in remote rural areas. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Hansen wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: >> So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in >> charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, >> much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. > > I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/11/16 Andy Allan > > Yes. Please don't include "this point is within such-and-such a > polygon" data onto the point itself, it's redundant information and > not helpful. When a county border is changed by legislation, then > moving the border of the county should be sufficient for a mapper.

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Mike N. wrote: > > > > > > > I believe people have been saying that this information is not necessary, > and is_in is also not necessary for 99% of cases, so we can save space by > not including that for the Karlsruhe Schema.   (But I don't know how the > name

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-15 Thread SteveC
On Nov 14, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Dave Hansen wrote: >> What really needs to be done for TIGER addresses import is match the >> streets from TIGER to those in OSM (which should be easy since they >> all still have the TIGER id's) and generate the address geometry based >> on these. Otherwise someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/15 Anthony : > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: >> I agree with >> Anthony that these tags are useless *except* this one tag, the Id *is* >> useful, please don't remove it. > > What's useful about it?  Or to ask the question a different way, what > is the tag supp

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/15 Apollinaris Schoell : > copying is very common for all motorways and other ways with separated > lanes. And this is ok too, it means that both these ways in TIGER are one way with the given Id, this is just the information any automated process will be looking for. > the worst example

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > I agree with > Anthony that these tags are useless *except* this one tag, the Id *is* > useful, please don't remove it. What's useful about it? Or to ask the question a different way, what is the tag supposed to mean? On Sat, Nov 14,

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 14 Nov 2009, at 18:05 , andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/11/15 Apollinaris Schoell : >> matching Tiger id's is a very bad idea. you need to compare >> geometries. >> during edits ways are split, merged copied moved, deleted nodes >> added node, > > Most of these operations are not a proble

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/15 andrzej zaborowski : > I agree with > Anthony that these tags are useless *except* this one tag, the Id *is* > useful, please don't remove it. To clarify what I mean, a good measure is probably whether you're changing the name on the road. If you're changing the geometry (splitting, me

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/15 Apollinaris Schoell : > matching Tiger id's is a very bad idea. you need to compare geometries. > during edits ways are split, merged copied moved, deleted nodes added node, Most of these operations are not a problem (except copying a whole way to somewhere else), the changed geometry i

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > What really needs to be done for TIGER addresses import is match the > streets from TIGER to those in OSM (which should be easy since they > all still have the TIGER id's) and generate the address geometry based > on these. Otherwise someone will need to do all of the geometry > corrections th

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:49 +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > > In San Francisco, for divided highways the old TIGER data used to > bow in to a point every block and we had, I think, automated ways to > split those out in to two straight lines. This is reflected with > little bows on the address l

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread SteveC
On Nov 14, 2009, at 5:49 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2009/11/14 SteveC : >> In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on >> north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just >> search for all the ways that make up the addressing o

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/14 andrzej zaborowski : > I've done a similar import of address data in my area and when writing > the converter I forgot to do the projection the first time, this > resulted in a similar effect to what you describe.  I've not seen > Dave's data but looking at the code he's using there's no

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, 2009/11/14 SteveC : > In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on > north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just search > for all the ways that make up the addressing on one side of the street and > move them manually. Many times for

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread SteveC
Dave I've looked at the two you sent me and they're both basically fine but for two things. In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just search for all the ways that make up the addressing on

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Mike N.
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py > We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some > people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a time. Thanks to those who worked on the namefinder - it worked GREA

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread SteveC
Can I have SF county, CA please and Arapahoe County, CO...? Yours &c. Steve On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: > So, just like the original TIGER import, I'm now grossly stealing > someone else's code: > > http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_o