Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-20 Thread John Smith
Was there some sort of consensus on how to tag these at all? Even though I don't think they should be automatically guessed at, and even though there is boundaries for most places in Australia, some times the towns out grow the boundaries and it'd be useful to tag these exceptions.

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/18 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Liz schrieb: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages etc) and a polygon/area for each place. Please leave australia out of your

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-18 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/11/18 Liz ed...@billiau.net On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages etc) and a polygon/area for each place. Please leave australia out of your bot's reach. we have

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/18 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: 2009/11/18 Liz ed...@billiau.net On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-17 Thread Liz
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages etc) and a polygon/area for each place. Please leave australia out of your bot's reach. we have imported government data which has achieved

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/14 Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Looking at this the new Nominatim service seams to do 85% of what I need, and might do more at a pinch. (Only found the service when I logged into IRC tonight)

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-14 Thread Peter Childs
Looking at this the new Nominatim service seams to do 85% of what I need, and might do more at a pinch. (Only found the service when I logged into IRC tonight) I'll have to have a look before I start reinventing the wheel. Peter. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-14 Thread Brian Quinion
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Looking at this the new Nominatim service seams to do 85% of what I need, and might do more at a pinch. (Only found the service when I logged into IRC tonight) My hope is that in the fullness of time Nominatim can be

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread John Smith
2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: The is_in tag is not a lot of use either due to it being inconsistent. I thought is_in is depreciated and replaced by polygons? While I don't think this list would be worth piping back in to the database, it might be useful for knowing what were

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: The is_in tag is not a lot of use either due to it being inconsistent. I thought is_in is depreciated and replaced by polygons? While I don't think this list would be worth piping back in to the

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread John Smith
2009/11/13 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk: You could calculate node density (nodes/km2) and assume that node density will decay from the centre of a town to the edge.  This would work for the nodes in ways, since 'in town' will have more streets than 'out of town'. A rural area

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread John Smith
2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: My first though was for an generated list rather than entered boarders, however thinking again this might need some human intervention to work properly. Boundaries are just as much arbitary as they are geographically based etc I'm not trying to

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Andrew Errington
On Fri, November 13, 2009 16:43, Peter Childs wrote: Any ideas. You could calculate node density (nodes/km2) and assume that node density will decay from the centre of a town to the edge. This would work for the nodes in ways, since 'in town' will have more streets than 'out of town'. A rural

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk: On Fri, November 13, 2009 16:43, Peter Childs wrote: Any ideas. You could calculate node density (nodes/km2) and assume that node density will decay from the centre of a town to the edge.  This would work for the nodes in ways, since

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: My first though was for an generated list rather than entered boarders, however thinking again this might need some human intervention to work properly. Boundaries are just as much arbitary as they are

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread John Smith
2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: I like it, but I wonder whether the place=city should be on the way rather than on some miscellaneous node. I'm not sure I like the bodge that is admin_level's I had always thought of them as government administration borders. It's also tagged as

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:43:20AM +, Peter Childs wrote: However in OSM places are points not area's and the areas we do have are either to do with admin (ie Counties, Borough's etc) and hence are rather less than helpful. The is_in tag is not a lot of use either due to it being

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 Nov 2009, at 12:00, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:43:20AM +, Peter Childs wrote: However in OSM places are points not area's and the areas we do have are either to do with admin (ie Counties, Borough's etc) and hence are rather less than helpful. The is_in

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:43:20AM +, Peter Childs wrote: However in OSM places are points not area's and the areas we do have are either to do with admin (ie Counties, Borough's etc) and hence are rather less than helpful. The is_in tag is not

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Richard Bullock
The problem with admin boundaries, here in the Uk anyway is that they have very little to do with the towns or places they actually are around. Admin_level tends to suggest a simple hierarchy that does not exists. and tends from what I've seen here to be related to govenment admin stration