Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> I suppose we could switch to different tag values like 2ldr for "two
> lane divided road with ramps". Do we need a whole new tag? The wrll tag
> for "what road looks like"? Will changing
> the tagging scheme increase data accuracy enough to make up for the hassle?
You mi
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thanks for that Jeffrey. I agree entirely that rendering should follow
> tagging and not lead tagging,
>
> Am I right in thinking that the synthesis of this discussion is being
> added to this wiki page?
>
> http://wiki.
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From: Jeffrey Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 April 2008 15:42
To: Peter Miller
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and
elsewhere
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> I think free tagging is great, but we should not allow multiple
> definitions for each tag.
> A tag should not indicate both it's legal status and it's structure,
> although one might
> imply the other under certain circumstances.
Well, that's an unfortunate fact of the 'hi
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Major non-interstate highways that have traffic light free multi-level
> junctions etc should be tagged as 'trunk' and possibly also be rendered
> orange but with less grand route numbers to differentiate them from
> inte
On 19/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - not trying to do anything to account for ways which crossed over a
> border. PostGIS can generate clipped geometries while doing the
> processing but I did not try this [1].
That's not the cause anyway - the motorway ends, with a break
On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 19:57 +0100, Dermot McNally wrote:
> On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The
> > screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in
> > Ireland to be rendered in pur
On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The
> screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in
> Ireland to be rendered in purple:
>
> http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/country-mways-example
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hopefully we won't need a separate tileserver for each rendering style -
> 1 server should be able to render more than one style at a time at
> different URLs. I am led to believe that mod_tile cannot currently
>
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|> When I look at the USA, I want interstates to be blue. When an American
|> looks at the UK, they want to see motorways to be a colour other than
|> blue, because then they will understand instinctively wh
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> Tom Hughes wrote:
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> | Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> |> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender
> |> sorted out for the USA t
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to
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Tom Hughes wrote:
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| Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender
|> sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised to tag
|> appr
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 21:57 +0100, Jon Burgess wrote:
> It should then be possible to include fips_cntry as a filter in the
> osm.xml.
>From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The
screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in
Ireland to be rendered
Hi,
> I really don't mind what the rendered colours are, that is for local
> discussion and there may even be multiple versions with different styles
> as far as I am concerned
Agree.
> but currently the rendering is uk-centric
Which comes as no surprise given that the project was started in t
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 20:02 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries,
> > states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing.
> > Alter
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about that while I was walking home earlier. The
> main question I guess is how efficient PostGIS is at answering
> the question "which of these N hundred polygons is this data
> in", or how efficiently we c
On Friday 18 April 2008 21:23:47 Peter Miller wrote:
> The answer is that OSM's currently
> colour scheme seems to be that it is UK imperialism!
>
> For interest, here are some colours using by Google maps around the world
> I would suggest we have a default of orange for top-level roads everywher
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Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries,
> states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing.
> Alternatively it might be possible for Mapnik to query them at run time
On Friday 18 April 2008 19:25:37 Peter Miller wrote:
> I hope I didn't come across as aggressive, but I did want to point out some
> really weird inconsistencies that do need to be resolved and wanted to
> encourage debate. In the UK a secondary roads is a minor road, in San
> Francisco this
>
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:14 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
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> "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different
On Friday 18 April 2008 19:14:22 Tom Hughes wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different
> >
ally update the tags
from 'highway=residential' to 'highway=trunk' (or whatever is agreed).
Regards,
Peter
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> From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 April 2008 17:38
> To: Peter Miller
> Cc: Talk Openst
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Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote:
> > > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and
> > > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised
> > > to tag appropriately. The
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"Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different
> > countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know o
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> > Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and
> > altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us =>
> > color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue?
>
> Complete wi
Hi,
> Who decides what colours are used on the main maps? I.e. who actually
> decided that motorways should be blue, and trunks should be green, how
> railways are rendered etc.?
>
> Say I'd like to see railways rendered differently in the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> maps, where
> should I ask? Is th
Hi,
> Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and
> altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us =>
> color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue?
Complete with the ability to have US motorways in the UK, yay!
Bye
Frederik
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On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different
> countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know of an efficient
> way to do it, so we don't even know what the technology would look like
>
On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote:
> > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and
> > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised
> > to tag appropriately. The moto 'render and they will come' probably
> > applies here as elsewhere.
>
> Agreeing on
> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender
> sorted out for the USA
"sorted out" - they both work fine. Even if we had a production-ready
mechanism for country-specific rendering, it would still be a matter
of opinion, or more accurately, a matter of cartographic s
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Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The state roads are currently tagged on OSM variously with trunk (green)
> primary (red) and secondary (orange). Some pretty major roads a tagged with
> secondary (actually a very lowly road class in the UK below moto
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