[Talk-it] Mirrored download

[Claudio Baraldi]

Una volta scaricavo su Josm la zona che mi interessava con il plugin *Mirrored
download *che mi permetteva di scaricare un'area molto più ampia del
Download classico, con gli ultimi aggiornamenti non trovo più questo
plugin, come mai?
Sto provando *Continuos Download* ma non è la stessa cosa, avete qualche
suggerimento?

Grazie
Baldorider
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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Marco_T]

dieterdreist wrote
>  *nonostante chiederei a voi un parere se vi pare la cosa giusta da
> fare*). 

Sono daccordo anche io.
Esempio pertinente e' il ponte che collega Venezia a Mestre...in qualche
modo sarebbe da migliorare.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponte_della_Libert%C3%A0
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-25 15:29 GMT+01:00 Andrea Solari :
>
> penso che oramai Openstreetmap sia popolato abbastanza e ritengo inutile
> e dannoso fare degli import massivi da mappe non aggiornate
>

Cosa intendi per abbastanza popolato? Popolato coi fabbricati o
popolato con mappatori?
Ti garantisco che nella mia provincia OSM non è popolato in nessuno
dei due sensi ;)

>
> ritengo che chi mappi deve conoscere i luoghi ed esservi almeno stato
> una volta per rendersi conto di persona
>

D'accordo ma le sagome dell'edificato non sono da considerare semplice
mappatura. E' impossibile essere precisi in merito utilizzando
semplicemente le foto, soprattutto se quelle poco ortogonali di Bing.
Se vogliamo una mappa seria, il miglior modo per avere le sagome degli
edifici è quello dell'import e se parliamo di cartografia regionale
1:5000 del 2007, non stiamo parlando di dati troppo vecchi né
imprecisi.
Certo avere la possibilità di importare edifici da cartografia
comunale in scala 1:2000 o minore sarebbe il massimo, ma pochi comuni
ne dispongono e ancora di meno sono quelli che pubblicano quei dati in
formato aperto.
Avere l'edificato completo su OSM significa dare la possibilità ai
mappatori del posto di avere un riferimento molto migliore per poter
inserire ulteriori dati, che siano POI, civici, o quant'altro.

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Luigi Toscano]

On Wednesday 25 of November 2015 17:50:49 Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: nicolas chavent 
> Date: 2015-11-25 0:05 GMT+01:00
> Subject: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian
> OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

Meglio leggere tutta la discussione, però, che *potrebbe* essere un fuoco di 
paglia; a partire da:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2015-November/003500.html

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Re: [Talk-it] Mirrored download

[Leonardo Frassetto]

Nelle ultime versioni è integrato in  Josm.
Il 25/nov/2015 16:54, "Claudio Baraldi"  ha
scritto:

> Una volta scaricavo su Josm la zona che mi interessava con il plugin *Mirrored
> download *che mi permetteva di scaricare un'area molto più ampia del
> Download classico, con gli ultimi aggiornamenti non trovo più questo
> plugin, come mai?
> Sto provando *Continuos Download* ma non è la stessa cosa, avete qualche
> suggerimento?
>
> Grazie
> Baldorider
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Boîtes aux lettres de rue

[Christian Quest]

En campagne, un géocodage de mauvaise qualité a visiblement été fait...
et comme on n'a pas d'autre source fiable que le terrain (une BAL ne se
voit pas en vue aérienne) et bien il faut aller sur le terrain vérifier ;)


On 25/11/2015 14:38, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote:
>
> Bonjour,
> Cela a déjà été mise en place dans osmose. Malheureusement à cause de
> la qualité des données il a fallut désactiver la fonctionnalité d'aide
> à l'intégration.
> Tu peux aussi lire un thread sur cette ml et les discutions sur data.gouv.
>
> Frédéric.
>
> Le 25 nov. 2015 12:11, "Luc"  > a écrit :
>
> Bonjour,
>
> En parcourant les archives de la liste de diffusion des dernières
> années, j'ai retrouvé un fil datant de 2013 traitant des boîtes
> aux lettres de rue
> 
> (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-October/063562.html).
> A l'époque, les données n'étaient pas réellement libre et de
> mauvaise qualité. L'idée de référencer les boîtes aux lettres de
> rue avait donc été abandonnée.
>
> Depuis le mois de juin dernier, ces données sont disponibles
> sur data.gouv.fr , le lien est le suivant :
> 
> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/liste-des-boites-aux-lettres-de-rue-france-metropolitaine-et-dom-1/.
>
> La Poste affirme proposer des données de localisation fiabilisées
> à 97,4% au 18/11/2015. 
> Les données disponibles sont récentes (dernière MàJ le 18/11/2015)
> et plutôt précises dans mon quartier. Je cependant n'ai pas la
> prétention de m'engager sur la qualité des données en comparant
> seulement avec mon quartier ; il faudrait voir sur un échantillon
> plus grand.
> Dans tous les cas, que pensez-vous de l'idée d'importer ces
> données dans osm ?
> Cela vous semble-t-il une bonne idée ?
>
> Cordialement,
> Luc C.
>
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[Talk-br] Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Vitor George]

Oi pessoal,

Vocês conhecem bem o trabalho do Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) e
sabem como é importante. Além de apoio moral, também é essencial contribuir
com um dinheirinho pro projeto continuar existindo. Aqui no Brasil usamos a
infra do HOT no Mapazonia e no mapeamento de Mariana. Se puderem doar algum
valor, aí está o link:

https://donate.hotosm.org

Abraços!
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[Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Cascafico Giovanni]

-- Forwarded message --
From: nicolas chavent 
Date: 2015-11-25 0:05 GMT+01:00
Subject: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian
OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"
To: hot 


Hi all,


Apologies for crosspostings, resending to talk an email sent to
osmf-talk about the HOT US Inc presence at the Board of the OSMF.

Best,
Nicolas


Dear OSMF voting members and mappers,

This short note (also published in my diary [1]) to draw your
attention on the danger for OSMF (and the OSM project) in the case the
United States NGO "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team US Inc" (aka HOT US
Inc) got a majority at the OSMF Board after this 2015 election.

Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi, all members of the NGO
HOT US Inc, are running for the OSMF Board [2]; Kate Chapman, the
former ED of HOT US Inc serves already as Board Officer in OSMF.

Shall Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi be elected, HOT US
Inc will get a majority at the Board of the Foundation.
This will provide a single organization of the OSM ecosystem (HOT US
Inc) with an unprecedented and excessive power of influence over the
Foundation.

This running of three candidates from the same organization is
puzzling and troublesome when one considers that HOT US Inc (and
therefore its perspective around OpenStreetMap) is already represented
at the OSMF Board since Sept 2013. Why extending its presence and
influence and consequently diminishing the OSM diversity represented
at the OSMF Board?

A greater HOT US Inc presence at the OSMF Board would be a matter of
concern in terms of :
- balance of powers
- diversity of visions, thoughts and practices around OSM
- board dynamics: a collective of HOT US Inc Boardees would interact
with single individuals.
This is a bad practice which is not followed by any Organizations;
this is specifically true for representative bodies (organization
representing organizations) such as OSMF

Here are some elements that OSMF voting members shall have in ming
prior casting their ballot 28-Nov onwards bearing in minds that HOT US
Inc and this perspective about OSM is already represented at the OSMF
Board through Kate Chapman.

The HOT US Inc perspective informs, like other perspectives, the work
of the Foundation and has its effect on the OSM project, there is no
need to take risks in providing this group with more room in the
Foundation which is hot enough in these times of winter.

Best,
Nicolas

[1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nicolas Chavent/diary/36750
[2]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board

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Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 86, assunto 22

[Helio Cesar Tomio]

Parece que o problema de compartilhamento de limites administrativos entre
rios e estradas (pontes) é comum a muita gente.

Também pensei numa gambiarra como vcs descrevem, para corrigir o nó:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2662229338

Pensava em excluir todas as tag's da atual via/ponte e deixar apenas como
uma linha (com os limites administrativos).

Depois desenhar por cima uma highway como ponte (sem conectar as linhas) e
demais informações da mesma.

Acredito que o JOSM vai acusar a duplicação de vias, mas deste modo
preservaria as informações dos limites administrativos em um objeto e no
outro objeto teria a via preservada, garantindo o roteamento dos gps.

Haveriam outras soluções além das já comentadas?
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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Mimochodem,
byl by tu nějaký zájemce o OSM hospodu v Ostravě nebo okolí?

Marián


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 25. 11. 2015 22:11:08
Předmět: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"
Ahoj,
vánoce se pomalu, ale jistě blíží, co takhle zkusit ještě jedno OSM pivko?

http://doodle.com/poll/xygiab522kee4r29

Návrhy na vhodnou, ideálně nezakouřenou, restauraci vítány.

Marián

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Vitor George]

Pessoal,

Acho que é o caso de fazer a tradução do que está no donate.hotosm.org para
divulgação. Traduzir o vídeo seria excelente.

O que tenho no momento de informações para "leigos" sobre a ativação de
Mariana é o post de lançamento:

http://codigourbano.org/imagens-de-satelite-mostram-rastro-de-lama-e-destruicao-em-mariana-mg/

O parágrafo final explica em linhas gerais a ativação. É o que tenho no
momento. Provavelmente vamos fazer um post no Código Urbano chamando pro
sprint final, e outro quando acabar.

Abraços,
Vitor


2015-11-25 19:26 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros <
alexandre@gmail.com>:

> Existe no Transifex do HOT um projeto para traduzir HTML de e-mails de
> campanha
> 
> destinados a impulsionar financiamento coletivo. Mas estão hesitando ou
> protelando iniciar com o idioma português, segundo entendi, para não
> desperdiçar esforços prematuros. Os interessados podem ficar atentos para
> quando isso começar.
>
> Alexandre Magno
>
> Em 25 de novembro de 2015 15:40, Reinaldo Neves 
> escreveu:
>
>> Vitor boa tarde,
>>
>>
>>
>> Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
>> outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
>> página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?
>>
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Joao Porto]

Vitor,

Parabéns pela iniciativa, temos todo interesse em apoiar essa ativação.
Você já contactou alguma organização interessada em usar os dados, por
exemplo, a defesa civil ou ONGs locais?

Por favor me diga quando estão pensando em fazer o esforço para terminar a
tarefa do tasking manager, vou tentar incluir na agenda das minhas aulas
aqui na USP São Carlos.

Abraços,
João Porto

Em 25 de novembro de 2015 20:46, Vitor George 
escreveu:

> Pessoal,
>
> Acho que é o caso de fazer a tradução do que está no donate.hotosm.org
> para divulgação. Traduzir o vídeo seria excelente.
>
> O que tenho no momento de informações para "leigos" sobre a ativação de
> Mariana é o post de lançamento:
>
>
> http://codigourbano.org/imagens-de-satelite-mostram-rastro-de-lama-e-destruicao-em-mariana-mg/
>
> O parágrafo final explica em linhas gerais a ativação. É o que tenho no
> momento. Provavelmente vamos fazer um post no Código Urbano chamando pro
> sprint final, e outro quando acabar.
>
> Abraços,
> Vitor
>
>
> 2015-11-25 19:26 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros <
> alexandre@gmail.com>:
>
>> Existe no Transifex do HOT um projeto para traduzir HTML de e-mails de
>> campanha
>> 
>> destinados a impulsionar financiamento coletivo. Mas estão hesitando ou
>> protelando iniciar com o idioma português, segundo entendi, para não
>> desperdiçar esforços prematuros. Os interessados podem ficar atentos para
>> quando isso começar.
>>
>> Alexandre Magno
>>
>> Em 25 de novembro de 2015 15:40, Reinaldo Neves 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Vitor boa tarde,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
>>> outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
>>> página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

[André Pirard]

Hi,

For a test, I'd like a few streets of Urbis where the houses are still
to map (with number).
I may erase tags, do my test and not save the result, of course.
But I prefer to be useful as well.
Does that exist?

Cheers

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

[Jo]

Hi Bruno,

André did a great job to provide you with the rendered version of what
UrbIS has in their GIS. Thank you for that André.

>From your originial post I understand you wanted aerial photography though.
So I added that as:

URBIS Orthorectified aerial imagery covering Brussels Region (2014)


To the website of JOSM, which means you can 'install' it in your local copy
of JOSM by updating the WMS sources, and then selecting it for use.

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Imagery

I'm still trying to figure out how to the same for the new AGIV imagery
that covers Flanders.

Also try JOSM's Mapillary plugin for streetview images. PhilippeC has
already made a lot of pictures in and around Brussels. It's nice for double
checking from a different perspective.

Cheers,

Polyglot

2015-11-25 23:48 GMT+01:00 André Pirard :

> On 2015-11-24 12:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote :
>
> Hi all,
>
> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's presentation
> at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map all I can in
> Brussels.
>
> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's missing
> in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork, hospitals...), such as:
> http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in french, but I take care to
> add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would be glad if some users helped to
> fill the blanks).
>
> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful and
> precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to use
> it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do you
> think it's possible ?
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> Welcome to OSM !!!  I have made new JOSM presets for Urbis as described
> below.
>
> When I am mapping, I meet many elements that were previously mapped with a
> 2-5-10m+ precision and I remap them with a 20 cm precision using the SPW
> servers.  The best advices I can give to map precisely are:
>
>- use JOSM, even if it seems harder to start with, it's much rewarding
>in the long term; suboptimal mapping is usually done with other editors
>- use digitalized maps: aerial photographs are shot from an angle:
>they are rectified horizontally but not vertically: the walls or other
>vertical features are slanted and the roofs are offset relatively to the
>ground; digitalized maps are the result of calculations that a human cannot
>do to put all that right.
>
> On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré wrote :
>
> Hi Bruno,
> Hi the list
>
> You can add easily the WMS server of Urbis in JOSM.
>
> ...
> http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities
>
>
>
> Forget about that URL and what I have said before about using it.
> I have made new presets that are prettier, faster, more simple, more
> precise by supporting 3857 and without the pesky message.
>
> Configure
> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBISfr*
> >Activate>OK
> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBISnl*
> >Activate>OK
> Activate
> Imagery>URBISfr or URBISnl and there should come your layer
> Let me know if everything is right for you.
>
> Happy mapping.
>
> André.
>
>
> ---
>
> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai
> maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je peux
> en Région bruxelloise.
>
> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures de
> la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres d'art, hôpitaux...) comme
> celle-ci: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux si
> certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).
>
> Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, fournies par Bing. Je
> sais que Bruxelles possède des images aériennes de 2015 beaucoup plus
> belles et précises grâce à UrbIS (par exemple ici:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ ), mais je ne sais pas comment les utiliser
> dans les outils d'édition d'OSM. Pensez-vous que ce soit possible ? J'ai
> notamment envie de redessiner les chemins du Cimetière de Bruxelles,
> parfaitement visibles sur BrugIS 2015 mais pas sur Bing, et d'y ajouter ses
> tombes célèbres...
>
>
> Merci/Thanks/Dank u et belle journée malgré le #BrusselsLockdown
> Bruno - ici.Brussels
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

[André Pirard]

On 2015-11-24 12:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote :
> Hi all,
>
> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's
> presentation at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map
> all I can in Brussels. 
>
> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's
> missing in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork,
> hospitals...), such as: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in
> french, but I take care to add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would
> be glad if some users helped to fill the blanks).
>
> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful
> and precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to
> use it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do
> you think it's possible ?
Hi Bruno,

Welcome to OSM !!!  I have made new JOSM presets for Urbis as described
below.

When I am mapping, I meet many elements that were previously mapped with
a 2-5-10m+ precision and I remap them with a 20 cm precision using the
SPW servers.  The best advices I can give to map precisely are:

  * use JOSM, even if it seems harder to start with, it's much rewarding
in the long term; suboptimal mapping is usually done with other editors
  * use digitalized maps: aerial photographs are shot from an angle:
they are rectified horizontally but not vertically: the walls or
other vertical features are slanted and the roofs are offset
relatively to the ground; digitalized maps are the result of
calculations that a human cannot do to put all that right.

On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré wrote :
> Hi Bruno,
> Hi the list
>
> You can add easily the WMS server of Urbis in JOSM.
>
> ...
>
> http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities

Forget about that URL and what I have said before about using it.
I have made new presets that are prettier, faster, more simple, more
precise by supporting 3857 and without the pesky message.

Configure
Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE
URBISfr*>Activate>OK
Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE
URBISnl*>Activate>OK
Activate
Imagery>URBISfr or URBISnl and there should come your layer


Let me know if everything is right for you.

Happy mapping.

André.


>
> ---
>
> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai
> maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je
> peux en Région bruxelloise.
>
> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures
> de la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres d'art, hôpitaux...)
> comme celle-ci: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux
> si certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).
>
> Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, fournies par Bing.
> Je sais que Bruxelles possède des images aériennes de 2015 beaucoup
> plus belles et précises grâce à UrbIS (par exemple ici:
> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ ), mais je ne sais pas comment les utiliser
> dans les outils d'édition d'OSM. Pensez-vous que ce soit possible ?
> J'ai notamment envie de redessiner les chemins du Cimetière de
> Bruxelles, parfaitement visibles sur BrugIS 2015 mais pas sur Bing, et
> d'y ajouter ses tombes célèbres...
>
>
> Merci/Thanks/Dank u et belle journée malgré le #BrusselsLockdown
> Bruno - ici.Brussels
>

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros]

Fiz uma primeira tradução da legenda:

https://www.amara.org/pt/videos/xwGRYJD2BItH/info/humanitarian-openstreetmap-team-mapthedifference/

*Falta fazer o resultado chegar até eles.*

O Amara é uma ótima ferramenta, mas não enxerguei como trabalhar em grupo.
Eu importei nela a legenda ES, original, recuperada por meio do youtube-dl,
traduzi as frases, e depois sincronizei os tempos.

Alexandre Magno

PS.:

$ youtube-dl --skip-download --write-sub --sub-format srt --sub-lang es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wdzGKmZu-k

Em 25 de novembro de 2015 19:46, Vitor George 
escreveu:

> Pessoal,
>
> Acho que é o caso de fazer a tradução do que está no donate.hotosm.org
> para divulgação. Traduzir o vídeo seria excelente.
>
> O que tenho no momento de informações para "leigos" sobre a ativação de
> Mariana é o post de lançamento:
>
>
> http://codigourbano.org/imagens-de-satelite-mostram-rastro-de-lama-e-destruicao-em-mariana-mg/
>
> O parágrafo final explica em linhas gerais a ativação. É o que tenho no
> momento. Provavelmente vamos fazer um post no Código Urbano chamando pro
> sprint final, e outro quando acabar.
>
> Abraços,
> Vitor
>


Em 25 de novembro de 2015 16:32, Gerald Weber  escreveu:

>
> O vídeo que está no youtube  está
> muito legal, às vezes alguém poderia contribuir com legendas em português
> para ajudar na divulgação.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

[André Pirard]

On 2015-11-26 00:42, Jo wrote :
> Hi Bruno,
>
> André did a great job to provide you with the rendered version of what
> UrbIS has in their GIS. Thank you for that André.
>
> From your originial post I understand you wanted aerial photography
> though. So I added that as:
>
> URBIS Orthorectified aerial imagery covering Brussels Region (2014)
> 
Oops, I was understanding that I was  taking care of Urbis and as there
was no answers to my messages I added

Configure
Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBIS
20xx*>Activate>OK
Activate
Imagery>URBIS 20xx and there should come your layer


with xx = 09, 12, 14, 15 and the same advantages over the WMS versions
as explained below.
It was just a few characters to change and right when I saved the file:
clash.
That's OSM, that's life ;-)

Thanks for AGIV, Jo.

Cheers

André.








>
> To the website of JOSM, which means you can 'install' it in your local
> copy of JOSM by updating the WMS sources, and then selecting it for use.
>
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Imagery
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how to the same for the new AGIV
> imagery that covers Flanders.
>
> Also try JOSM's Mapillary plugin for streetview images. PhilippeC has
> already made a lot of pictures in and around Brussels. It's nice for
> double checking from a different perspective.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2015-11-25 23:48 GMT+01:00 André Pirard  >:
>
> On 2015-11-24 12:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's
>> presentation at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects
>> to map all I can in Brussels. 
>>
>> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's
>> missing in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork,
>> hospitals...), such as: http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website
>> in french, but I take care to add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way,
>> I would be glad if some users helped to fill the blanks).
>>
>> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has
>> beautiful and precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see
>> here: http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't
>> know how to use it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't
>> yet available). Do you think it's possible ?
> Hi Bruno,
>
> Welcome to OSM !!!  I have made new JOSM presets for Urbis as
> described below.
>
> When I am mapping, I meet many elements that were previously
> mapped with a 2-5-10m+ precision and I remap them with a 20 cm
> precision using the SPW servers.  The best advices I can give to
> map precisely are:
>
>   * use JOSM, even if it seems harder to start with, it's much
> rewarding in the long term; suboptimal mapping is usually done
> with other editors
>   * use digitalized maps: aerial photographs are shot from an
> angle: they are rectified horizontally but not vertically: the
> walls or other vertical features are slanted and the roofs are
> offset relatively to the ground; digitalized maps are the
> result of calculations that a human cannot do to put all that
> right.
>
> On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré wrote :
>> Hi Bruno,
>> Hi the list
>>
>> You can add easily the WMS server of Urbis in JOSM.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> 
>> http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities
>
> Forget about that URL and what I have said before about using it.
> I have made new presets that are prettier, faster, more simple,
> more precise by supporting 3857 and without the pesky message.
>
> Configure
>   Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE
> URBISfr*>Activate>OK
> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE
> URBISnl*>Activate>OK
> Activate
>   Imagery>URBISfr or URBISnl and there should come your layer
>
>
> Let me know if everything is right for you.
>
> Happy mapping.
>
> André.
>
>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
>> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et
>> j'ai maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout
>> ce que je peux en Région bruxelloise.
>>
>> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des
>> infrastructures de la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, oeuvres
>> d'art, hôpitaux...) comme celle-ci:
>> http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (et je serais heureux si
>> certains se joignaient à moi pour compléter les tags manquants).
>>
>> Ma question porte sur les images satellites d'OSM, 

Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

[Jo]

Hi André,

I waited until I thought you were done. But I didn't see the aerial imagery
appear, so I tried to see if I could add it, which to my surprise, after
frustrating attempts with the AGIV counterpart yesterday, was easy. No idea
why I didn't find the 2015 version though...

Anyway, I figured out how to do it with AGIV as well now. Always a lot of
trial and error involved for me.

Jo

2015-11-26 1:04 GMT+01:00 André Pirard :

> On 2015-11-26 00:42, Jo wrote :
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> André did a great job to provide you with the rendered version of what
> UrbIS has in their GIS. Thank you for that André.
>
> From your originial post I understand you wanted aerial photography
> though. So I added that as:
>
> URBIS Orthorectified aerial imagery covering Brussels Region (2014)
> 
>
> Oops, I was understanding that I was  taking care of Urbis and as there
> was no answers to my messages I added
>
> Configure
> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBIS
> 20xx*>Activate>OK
> Activate
> Imagery>URBIS 20xx and there should come your layer
> with xx = 09, 12, 14, 15 and the same advantages over the WMS versions as
> explained below.
> It was just a few characters to change and right when I saved the file:
> clash.
> That's OSM, that's life ;-)
>
> Thanks for AGIV, Jo.
>
> Cheers
>
> André.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To the website of JOSM, which means you can 'install' it in your local
> copy of JOSM by updating the WMS sources, and then selecting it for use.
>
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Imagery
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how to the same for the new AGIV imagery
> that covers Flanders.
>
> Also try JOSM's Mapillary plugin for streetview images. PhilippeC has
> already made a lot of pictures in and around Brussels. It's nice for double
> checking from a different perspective.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2015-11-25 23:48 GMT+01:00 André Pirard :
>
>> On 2015-11-24 12:37, Bruno Veyckemans wrote :
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I became an enthusiastic OSM mapper following Julien Fastré's
>> presentation at Foss4G BE last month, and now have big projects to map all
>> I can in Brussels.
>>
>> I focus on using Overpass / PHP to create listings and see what's missing
>> in the capital (museums, parks, churches, artwork, hospitals...), such as:
>> http://ici.brussels/liste-musees (website in french, but I take care to
>> add tags in FR/NL/EN... By the way, I would be glad if some users helped to
>> fill the blanks).
>>
>> My question is about OSM's Bing imagery. I know Brussels has beautiful
>> and precise 2015 aerial pictures thanks to UrbIS (see here:
>> http://geoloc.irisnet.be/ , ArcGIS server), but I don't know how to use
>> it in OSM to map Brussels (their 2015 WMS isn't yet available). Do you
>> think it's possible ?
>>
>> Hi Bruno,
>>
>> Welcome to OSM !!!  I have made new JOSM presets for Urbis as described
>> below.
>>
>> When I am mapping, I meet many elements that were previously mapped with
>> a 2-5-10m+ precision and I remap them with a 20 cm precision using the SPW
>> servers.  The best advices I can give to map precisely are:
>>
>>- use JOSM, even if it seems harder to start with, it's much
>>rewarding in the long term; suboptimal mapping is usually done with other
>>editors
>>- use digitalized maps: aerial photographs are shot from an angle:
>>they are rectified horizontally but not vertically: the walls or other
>>vertical features are slanted and the roofs are offset relatively to the
>>ground; digitalized maps are the result of calculations that a human 
>> cannot
>>do to put all that right.
>>
>> On 2015-11-24 22:11, Julien Fastré wrote :
>>
>> Hi Bruno,
>> Hi the list
>>
>> You can add easily the WMS server of Urbis in JOSM.
>>
>> ...
>> http://geoserver.gis.irisnet.be/urbis/wms?service=wms=1.3.0=GetCapabilities
>>
>>
>>
>> Forget about that URL and what I have said before about using it.
>> I have made new presets that are prettier, faster, more simple, more
>> precise by supporting 3857 and without the pesky message.
>>
>> Configure
>> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBISfr*
>> >Activate>OK
>> Imagery>Imagery preferences>refresh (whirling arrows)>select *BE URBISnl*
>> >Activate>OK
>> Activate
>> Imagery>URBISfr or URBISnl and there should come your layer
>> Let me know if everything is right for you.
>>
>> Happy mapping.
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> Je suis devenu un "mapper" enthousiaste d'OSM à la suite de la
>> présentation de Julien Fastré au Foss4G BE le mois dernier, et j'ai
>> maintenant des projets assez ambitieux pour compléter tout ce que je peux
>> en Région bruxelloise.
>>
>> J'utilise Overpass et PHP pour générer des listes des infrastructures de
>> la capitale (musées, parcs, églises, 

[OSM-talk] Written guidance on one shop with two lines of business (e.g. Cafe & Bike Rental)

[Bryce Nesbitt]

I ran into this node:

amenity cafe
amenity_1 bicycle_rental
amenity_2 bicycle_repair_station
name The Hairy Marron
website https://www.facebook.com/thehairymarron/info/
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30749887
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35562780




And pointed the editor to:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element


But it's not really on point to this issue: how to make one unified
business with two product lines.
Examples include:

   - Ice cream + bicycle rental
   - Campground + Convenience store
   - Dry cleaner + Sewing + Flowers
   - Pizza + Cheese Retail Shop



Is there a really good written resource that explains some of the issues
around one place that fits more than one category?

Here I'd probably map the building then two nodes (cafe and bike shop with
bike rental).   But even that has some problems as opening hours and
website should be common between the nodes.

Or maybe tag the building with the name, then stick cafe & bike shop nodes
inside, and hope that data consumers catch the enclosing element.

  -Bryce



PS: The "bicycle_repair_station" was a misunderstanding of the tag: he
meant a bike shop with bike repair.
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Re: [OSM-talk] ​Promoting OSM through the media (Bryce Nesbitt)

[Alan Bragg]

I liked Bryce's excellent idea to comment on a news story by linking to a
OSM "node". Following the link gave a reader not only the  location but all
of the detail of his changeset.

I tried this today by linking a news article to a "way" encompassing a
controversial housing development in my town. My link added context to the
news article that only included the lot numbers. Next I'll contact our
local editor and see if I can link to articles before they are published,
maybe I can teach her how to make the links.

I'd like to hear more ways to promote OSM. What's yours?

Alan

Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:47:27 -0800
> From: Bryce Nesbitt 
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Promoting OSM through the media
> Here's a small example of promoting OSM through watching media stories:
>
> http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2015/10/27/bicycle-repair-station-installed-at-lake-fayetteville-trail/
>
> See the comment at the end with a link to the mapping of this announced
> feature.
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Peter Krauss]

+1.  Um pouco de "marketing dos produtos" nessa divulgação, para quem está
de fora ver ou entender o trabalho que foi realizado... Nem que seja uma
imagem "antes e depois" do mapa atualizado...



Em 25 de novembro de 2015 16:40, Reinaldo Neves 
escreveu:

> Vitor boa tarde,
>
>
>
> Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
> outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
> página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?
>
>
>
> __
>
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>
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>
> (11) 3221-3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* Vitor George [mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com]
> *Enviada em:* quarta-feira, 25 de novembro de 2015 13:20
> *Para:* OSM talk-br
> *Assunto:* [Talk-br] Vamos doar ao HOT?
>
>
>
> Oi pessoal,
>
>
>
> Vocês conhecem bem o trabalho do Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) e
> sabem como é importante. Além de apoio moral, também é essencial contribuir
> com um dinheirinho pro projeto continuar existindo. Aqui no Brasil usamos a
> infra do HOT no Mapazonia e no mapeamento de Mariana. Se puderem doar algum
> valor, aí está o link:
>
>
>
> https://donate.hotosm.org
>
>
>
> Abraços!
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Gerald Weber]

O vídeo que está no youtube  está
muito legal, às vezes alguém poderia contribuir com legendas em português
para ajudar na divulgação.

Gerald

2015-11-25 16:40 GMT-02:00 Reinaldo Neves :

> Vitor boa tarde,
>
>
>
> Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
> outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
> página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Andrea Solari]

Il 25/11/2015 17:07, Federico Cortese ha scritto:
> 2015-11-25 15:29 GMT+01:00 Andrea Solari :
>>
>> penso che oramai Openstreetmap sia popolato abbastanza e ritengo inutile
>> e dannoso fare degli import massivi da mappe non aggiornate
>>
> 
> Cosa intendi per abbastanza popolato? Popolato coi fabbricati o
> popolato con mappatori?

parlavo di fabbricati.
> Ti garantisco che nella mia provincia OSM non è popolato in nessuno
> dei due sensi ;)
> 
>>
>> ritengo che chi mappi deve conoscere i luoghi ed esservi almeno stato
>> una volta per rendersi conto di persona
>>
> 
> D'accordo ma le sagome dell'edificato non sono da considerare semplice
> mappatura. E' impossibile essere precisi in merito utilizzando
> semplicemente le foto, soprattutto se quelle poco ortogonali di Bing.
> Se vogliamo una mappa seria, il miglior modo per avere le sagome degli
> edifici è quello dell'import e se parliamo di cartografia regionale
> 1:5000 del 2007, non stiamo parlando di dati troppo vecchi né
> imprecisi.

ok per l'import delle sagome degli edifici, ma penso che sia meglio
lasciare i dettagli a chi conosce la zona e non caricare dati random.
Per quanto mi  riguarda è meglio un dato impreciso, generico che un dato
completamente errato

saluti
andrea

> Certo avere la possibilità di importare edifici da cartografia
> comunale in scala 1:2000 o minore sarebbe il massimo, ma pochi comuni
> ne dispongono e ancora di meno sono quelli che pubblicano quei dati in
> formato aperto.
> Avere l'edificato completo su OSM significa dare la possibilità ai
> mappatori del posto di avere un riferimento molto migliore per poter
> inserire ulteriori dati, che siano POI, civici, o quant'altro.

ok concordo
> 
> Ciao
> Federico
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Boîtes aux lettres de rue

[Luc C]

Très bien, merci pour ces infos.
J’ai en effet retrouvé plusieurs threads intéressants à ce sujet.

Maintenant, j’aimerais apporter ma contribution sur ce point, mais je ne sais 
pas trop comment m’y prendre. Je n’ai, jusqu’à maintenant, apporté que de 
mineures modifications sur osm.
Par exemple, puis-je ajouter les BAL de mon quartier manuellement en les 
répertoriant “sur le terrain” et éventuellement en recoupant avec des 
orthophotos ?
Comme ces BAL sont déjà dans osmose, peut-être ne faut-il pas les ajouter 
manuellement mais plutôt les “activer” d’une manière ou d’une autre ?

Luc

> On 25 Nov 2015, at 5:43 PM, Christian Quest  wrote:
> 
> En campagne, un géocodage de mauvaise qualité a visiblement été fait... et 
> comme on n'a pas d'autre source fiable que le terrain (une BAL ne se voit pas 
> en vue aérienne) et bien il faut aller sur le terrain vérifier ;)
> 
> 
> On 25/11/2015 14:38, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote:
>> Bonjour,
>> Cela a déjà été mise en place dans osmose. Malheureusement à cause de la 
>> qualité des données il a fallut désactiver la fonctionnalité d'aide à 
>> l'intégration.
>> Tu peux aussi lire un thread sur cette ml et les discutions sur data.gouv.
>> 
>> Frédéric.
>> 
>> Le 25 nov. 2015 12:11, "Luc" < syro...@gmail.com 
>> > a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
>> 
>> En parcourant les archives de la liste de diffusion des dernières années, 
>> j'ai retrouvé un fil datant de 2013 traitant des boîtes aux lettres de rue ( 
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-October/063562.html
>>  
>> ).
>> A l'époque, les données n'étaient pas réellement libre et de mauvaise 
>> qualité. L'idée de référencer les boîtes aux lettres de rue avait donc été 
>> abandonnée.
>> 
>> Depuis le mois de juin dernier, ces données sont disponibles sur 
>> data.gouv.fr , le lien est le suivant : 
>> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/liste-des-boites-aux-lettres-de-rue-france-metropolitaine-et-dom-1/
>>  
>> .
>> 
>> La Poste affirme proposer des données de localisation fiabilisées à 97,4% au 
>> 18/11/2015. 
>> Les données disponibles sont récentes (dernière MàJ le 18/11/2015) et plutôt 
>> précises dans mon quartier. Je cependant n'ai pas la prétention de m'engager 
>> sur la qualité des données en comparant seulement avec mon quartier ; il 
>> faudrait voir sur un échantillon plus grand.
>> Dans tous les cas, que pensez-vous de l'idée d'importer ces données dans osm 
>> ?
>> Cela vous semble-t-il une bonne idée ?
>> 
>> Cordialement,
>> Luc C.
>> 
>> 
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[Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Reinaldo Neves]

Vitor boa tarde,

 

Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em outras 
redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou página 
traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?

 

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De: Vitor George [mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 25 de novembro de 2015 13:20
Para: OSM talk-br
Assunto: [Talk-br] Vamos doar ao HOT?

 

Oi pessoal,

 

Vocês conhecem bem o trabalho do Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) e sabem 
como é importante. Além de apoio moral, também é essencial contribuir com um 
dinheirinho pro projeto continuar existindo. Aqui no Brasil usamos a infra do 
HOT no Mapazonia e no mapeamento de Mariana. Se puderem doar algum valor, aí 
está o link:

 

https://donate.hotosm.org

 

Abraços!

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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Hi Jothirnadh,
Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil server you
mentioned in the blog? In case it is not of appropriate license, we cannot
import into OSM. I believe geonames.org data is not of suitable license
(others can correct me if I'm wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil map layer
based on geonames.org?
Regards,
Ishan

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:

> Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming
> On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:
>
>> Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>>
>>> If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
>>> which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
>>> On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai"  wrote:
>>>
 Dear OSM community,

 My name is Jothirnadh 
 and I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that
 there are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of
 finding ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
  on
 explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
 eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
 missing towns and villages data on OSM.

 With Regards,
 JOTHIRNADH
 Open Data Analyst
 Mapbox, India
 Phn No.: +919490712829

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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Justin Meyers]

Ishan,
The license for the nga data is here:
https://www.nga.mil/ProductsServices/GeographicNames/Pages/default.aspx

"There are no licensing requirements or restrictions in place for the use
of the GNS data. However, we recommend using the following citation to
identify the GNS as a source:

Toponymic information is based on the Geographic Names Data Base,
containing official standard names approved by the United States Board on
Geographic Names and maintained by the National Geospatial-Intelligence
Agency. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency name, initials, and
seal are protected by 10 United States Code Section 425."


geonames.org  has
many sources (which the nga data was the original dataset):
http://www.geonames.org/data-sources.html


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jothirnadh,
> Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil server you
> mentioned in the blog? In case it is not of appropriate license, we cannot
> import into OSM. I believe geonames.org data is not of suitable license
> (others can correct me if I'm wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil map
> layer based on geonames.org?
> Regards,
> Ishan
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>
>> Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming
>> On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:
>>
>>> Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>>>
 If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
 which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
 On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai" 
 wrote:

> Dear OSM community,
>
> My name is Jothirnadh 
> and I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that
> there are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of
> finding ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
>  on
> explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
> eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
> missing towns and villages data on OSM.
>
> With Regards,
> JOTHIRNADH
> Open Data Analyst
> Mapbox, India
> Phn No.: +919490712829
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-25 20:00 GMT+01:00 Andrea Solari :
>
> ok per l'import delle sagome degli edifici, ma penso che sia meglio
> lasciare i dettagli a chi conosce la zona e non caricare dati random.
> Per quanto mi  riguarda è meglio un dato impreciso, generico che un dato
> completamente errato
>
Hai perfettamente ragione. Anche io sono sempre stato più favorevole
per un dato generico, in modo che il mappatore della zona possa
inserire tutti i dettagli.
Ora non conosco il caso specifico, ma quando si importano i fabbricati
si conservano tutti i tag già presenti in OSM inseriti dai mappatori
in tempi più o meno recenti, quindi in alcuni casi può essere quella
la causa di un dato obsoleto.
Ho cercato i carabinieri e la biblioteca, se ho ben capito sono vicini
al comune di Quilino, ma tutti e due sono stati importati da Marco
oltre tre anni fa come building=house e solo otto mesi fa sono state
aggiunte le informazioni amenity=police e amenity=library dall'user
vancori. Quindi se sono dati errati è da contattare più quest'ultimo
(sempre se ho ben capito a quali edifici ti riferisci).

Ciao
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Boîtes aux lettres de rue

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Oui. Il fait les ajouter à la main. Osmose permet d'intégrer en un clic,
mais ça à était désactivé pour les BAL, car non vérifiable depuis sa chaise.
Le 25 nov. 2015 20:13, "Luc C"  a écrit :

> Très bien, merci pour ces infos.
> J’ai en effet retrouvé plusieurs threads intéressants à ce sujet.
>
> Maintenant, j’aimerais apporter ma contribution sur ce point, mais je ne
> sais pas trop comment m’y prendre. Je n’ai, jusqu’à maintenant, apporté que
> de mineures modifications sur osm.
> Par exemple, puis-je ajouter les BAL de mon quartier manuellement en les
> répertoriant “sur le terrain” et éventuellement en recoupant avec des
> orthophotos ?
> Comme ces BAL sont déjà dans osmose, peut-être ne faut-il pas les ajouter
> manuellement mais plutôt les “activer” d’une manière ou d’une autre ?
>
> Luc
>
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 5:43 PM, Christian Quest 
> wrote:
>
> En campagne, un géocodage de mauvaise qualité a visiblement été fait... et
> comme on n'a pas d'autre source fiable que le terrain (une BAL ne se voit
> pas en vue aérienne) et bien il faut aller sur le terrain vérifier ;)
>
>
> On 25/11/2015 14:38, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote:
>
> Bonjour,
> Cela a déjà été mise en place dans osmose. Malheureusement à cause de la
> qualité des données il a fallut désactiver la fonctionnalité d'aide à
> l'intégration.
> Tu peux aussi lire un thread sur cette ml et les discutions sur data.gouv.
>
> Frédéric.
> Le 25 nov. 2015 12:11, "Luc" < syro...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> En parcourant les archives de la liste de diffusion des dernières années,
>> j'ai retrouvé un fil datant de 2013 traitant des boîtes aux lettres de rue (
>> 
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-October/063562.html
>> ).
>> A l'époque, les données n'étaient pas réellement libre et de mauvaise
>> qualité. L'idée de référencer les boîtes aux lettres de rue avait donc été
>> abandonnée.
>>
>> Depuis le mois de juin dernier, ces données sont disponibles sur
>> data.gouv.fr, le lien est le suivant :
>> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/liste-des-boites-aux-lettres-de-rue-france-metropolitaine-et-dom-1/
>> .
>>
>> La Poste affirme proposer des données de localisation fiabilisées à 97,4%
>> au 18/11/2015.
>> Les données disponibles sont récentes (dernière MàJ le 18/11/2015) et
>> plutôt précises dans mon quartier. Je cependant n'ai pas la prétention de
>> m'engager sur la qualité des données en comparant seulement avec mon
>> quartier ; il faudrait voir sur un échantillon plus grand.
>> Dans tous les cas, que pensez-vous de l'idée d'importer ces données dans
>> osm ?
>> Cela vous semble-t-il une bonne idée ?
>>
>> Cordialement,
>> Luc C.
>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-25 18:22 GMT+01:00 Luigi Toscano :

> Meglio leggere tutta la discussione, però, che *potrebbe* essere un fuoco
> di
> paglia; a partire da:
>


dice HOT che è un fuoco di paglia però. Io penso che non è detto che loro
sfrutterebbe in maniera indecente il potere, ma non vorrei nemmeno provare
se ho ragione o meno ;-)

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[Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
vánoce se pomalu, ale jistě blíží, co takhle zkusit ještě jedno OSM pivko?

http://doodle.com/poll/xygiab522kee4r29

Návrhy na vhodnou, ideálně nezakouřenou, restauraci vítány.

Marián
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

[Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros]

Existe no Transifex do HOT um projeto para traduzir HTML de e-mails de
campanha

destinados a impulsionar financiamento coletivo. Mas estão hesitando ou
protelando iniciar com o idioma português, segundo entendi, para não
desperdiçar esforços prematuros. Os interessados podem ficar atentos para
quando isso começar.

Alexandre Magno

Em 25 de novembro de 2015 15:40, Reinaldo Neves 
escreveu:

> Vitor boa tarde,
>
>
>
> Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
> outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
> página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?
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[Talk-ca] UMap log in and import

[Rieger, Courtney]

Hi,

I'm trying to sign up for a UMap account but I keep getting 'Bad Gateway'.
I think there is a problem with the website... I was going to try to use
the UMap program to create layers on top of a live OpenStreetMap basemap.

CR

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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: Roads in India: How complete is OpenStreetMap ?

[Arun Ganesh]

Was able to generate per state road lengths from OSM using tile-reduce
https://github.com/mapbox/osm-coverage/tree/regions

Preliminary results in the spreadhseet, check the `OSM region coverage`
sheet.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Nikhil Prabhakar 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have posted a github ticket on our latest mapping project here
>  as a part of  Expressway
> improvement in OSM.
> It would be great to to have more eyes on this to improve the process.
>
> Regards,
> Nikhil Prabhakar.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Naveen Francis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arun,
>>
>> We can keep urban roads and other dept roads
>> (forest,irrigation,kseb,railway) in *Other Road*.
>>
>> In village road just panchayat road.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> naveenpf.
>>
>> On 24 November 2015 at 16:40, Arun Ganesh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Naveen,
>>>
 Village roads= Total road - ( PWD (R) [includes SHs + MDRs] + PWD
 (NH) )


 This should probably come under other roads rather than village roads
>>> since it includes urban roads as well.
>>>
>>> The village roads could just be the panchayat roads.
>>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi]

Negli scorsi anni ci si è posto lo stesso problema riguardo le aziende. Per
HOT non credo sia un vero problema, ma in generale potrebbe esserlo.
On 25 Nov 2015 22:29, "Martin Koppenhoefer"  wrote:

>
> 2015-11-25 18:22 GMT+01:00 Luigi Toscano :
>
>> Meglio leggere tutta la discussione, però, che *potrebbe* essere un fuoco
>> di
>> paglia; a partire da:
>>
>
>
> dice HOT che è un fuoco di paglia però. Io penso che non è detto che loro
> sfrutterebbe in maniera indecente il potere, ma non vorrei nemmeno provare
> se ho ragione o meno ;-)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-25 1:59 GMT+01:00 Dave Corley :

> It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone
> (members) to vote for who they choose.
>
> Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the
> governing rules which can be voted on.
>
> In other words, to paraphrase the techies, patches welcome
>

yes, of course it is an open election, but of course Nicolas or anyone else
has the right to express his/her concerns and share them with the
electorate. Everybody can evaluate individually how to treat this
information and whether it will influence his/her voting behaviour or not.

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Re: [Talk-it] codice fiscale

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 23:50 GMT+01:00 Damjan Gerl :

> Forse
> ref:IT:CF=*
>

al proposito, qui ci sono le solite inconsistenze in wikipedia e wikidata.
Qualcuno ha linkato questo articolo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_fiscal_code_card
a questo
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codice_fiscale
(c'è anche una versione cinese, ma non ho idea di cosa tratta).

Per me è sbagliato, un articolo tratta del codice, l'altro della scheda.
Entrambi articoli puntano allo stesso oggetto wikidata, che oltre ai nomi
contiene un unico statement: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15408473
il statement si riferisce al codice, non alla scheda. Come si può risolvere?

Si potrebbe cambiare l'articolo inglese per farlo descrivere il codice
invece della scheda, oppure si potrebbe sganciare l'articolo inglese sia
dalla versione italiana del codice sia da wikidata.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[Christian Ledermann]

maybe the edubase data could help with this
http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/about.xhtml states: The Crown
copyright-protected material featured on this website (other than
Departmental logos) may be reproduced free of charge in any format or
medium, under the terms of the “Open Government
Licence":http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence

also it could be used to enrich the OS Data with address, telefon number etc.

for a quick look at the data edubase provides:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schools-in-england

As every school in edubase comes with a postcode it should be
reasonably easy to correlate the OS and EduBase data, and then weed
out closed schools



On 24 November 2015 at 18:31, SK53  wrote:
> Perhaps not even for those give the number of Academies (also missing is the
> new academy in Dunkirk). Point in Polygons for Food Hygiene data might help.
>
> It would also be interesting to see what they do with multi-institution
> campuses. My nephews go to school in one such place.
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 18:15, Phil Endecott 
> wrote:
>>
>> SK53 wrote:
>>>
>>> Quick look (Nottingham, of course):
>>>
>>>- Polygons look OK
>>>- Many features missing (e.g., University of Nottingham Main Campus,
>>>both sites of Dunkirk Primary School
>>>- Old features present (e.g., Elms Primary School, closed prior to
>>> 2011)
>>>- Reasonably well attributed.
>>>
>>> At the very least it could be used to hunt for missing schools (which
>>> I've
>>> done a bit of in N Scotland using Food Hygiene data).
>>
>>
>> Having looked at OpenMap Local for Edinburgh a while ago, my impression is
>> that they have used some rather primitive rules to identify "important
>> buildings".  It picks up anything with "school" in the name, but fails to
>> mark most of the city landmarks - things that are shown in their older
>> "Street
>> View" data.  So yes, it might work for schools - but not much else.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,  Phil.
>>
>>
>>
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[Talk-it] Overpass Turbo e ordine nelle relazioni

[Federico Cortese]

Buongiorno a tutti,
ho già affrontato in passato lo stesso argomento, ma ci ritorno su per
capire se si possa risolvere con Overpass.
In pratica con
(relation(4665910););
seleziono la relazione che ha quell'id, poi con
way(r)
ne seleziono le way.
Quel che vorrei capire è se c'è un modo per rispettare l'ordine delle
way nella relazione, perchè con quella query me le prende in ordine
sparso, mentre io vorrei semplicemente prelevarle nell'ordine col
quale sono elencate nella relazione.
Esiste un modo?

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Arun Ganesh]

Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:

> If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
> which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
> On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai"  wrote:
>
>> Dear OSM community,
>>
>> My name is Jothirnadh 
>> and I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that
>> there are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of
>> finding ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
>>  on
>> explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
>> eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
>> missing towns and villages data on OSM.
>>
>> With Regards,
>> JOTHIRNADH
>> Open Data Analyst
>> Mapbox, India
>> Phn No.: +919490712829
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Re: [Talk-it] Parafarmacie

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-24 22:20 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt :
> Bisogna correggere la voce "parmafarmacia" in
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Glossario_OSM

D'accordissimo con te Volker e grazie a te e ad Any per gli utili consigli.
Per la wiki puoi correggere tu?
Grazie ancora

Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] Parafarmacie

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-24 22:02 GMT+01:00 Any File :

> Per una parafarmacia, se con questo termine intendi qualcosa di molto
> simile ad una farmacia, ma che non vende prodotti con obbligo di
> ricetta, userei amenity=pharmacy con dispensing=no
>
> Se invece intendi un posto dove non vengono venduti neanche i farmaci
> da banco allora forse shop=chemist è la scelta più opportuna (anche se
> la pagina wiki su questo tag non mi entusiama, in alcuni punti mi pare
> perfino contraddittoria).
>


+1, anche a Volker.

Ciao,
Martin
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[Talk-es] Fwd: Comparativa imágenes Bing y PNOA

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

(Reenvio email que olvidé quitar adjuntos en el anterior)

Hola a todos,

Con motivo de la preparación del curso sobre OSM que estoy impartiendo con
la inestimable ayuda de Alejandro Suárez (@alejandroscf) en Zaragoza [1] he
estado contrastando y preparando material gráfico para mis presentaciones
[2] y que he compartido en el grupo de Telegram y he colgado en imagur.com
[3].

Os pego aquí lo que he dicho por esa vía:

La imagen de Escuaín y que es de las mismas coordenadas habla por sí sola:
existe una error de casi 50m entre una imagen Bing y la del PNOA en el área
edificada. Las líneas negras que se observan son del Catastro (que
conincide con el PNOA).

Entonces Jonás ha comentado que "esto puede pasar con todos los WMS" y no
he podido más que contestar argumentando que los errores están derivados de
la corrección fotogramétrica de las imágenes y he continuado con lo
siguiente (corto y pego del grupo de Telegram):

La ortorectificación fotogramétrica de las imágenes, o sea, y a grandes
rasfos, pasar de una imagen tomada por una cámara (deformación cónica) a
que se ajuste a la realidad (proyección ortogonal) se resuelve teniendo
presente (1) las características del sensor/cámara (cuál es su modelo
"optico"), y, sobre todo, (2) reajustando las deformaciones del relieve [4].

La imagen Bing en su mayor parte para España viene de imágenes de satélite
de alta resolución (GeoEye / Quickbird) que son corregidas de manera
automática (1) ajustando perfectamente la deformación del sensor pero con
(2) un reajuste a la topografía que deriva de un  modelo digital del
terreno muy grosero.

Las imágenes del Plan Nacional de Ortofotografía Aérea del CNIG-IGN (PNOA)
[5], sin embargo, derivan de un laborioso trabajo de rectificación de
fotográficas tomadas desde un avión cuyo (1) ajuste del sensor es preciso
(esto ya está superado para todos los sensores/cámaras digitales... hasta
para los de vuestros móviles) y (2) ajustándose a unas deformaciones
topográficas (usando un modelo digital de elevaciones) extraordinariamente
detallado.

EN RESUMEN: las imágenes del PNOA son de una extraordinaria precisión (de
hecho se usan/cuadran con el Catastro, que os recuerdo es Ley) y aunque
pudiera parecer que las imágenes Bing puedan tener mayor resolución de
imagen (esto ya os lo cuento otro día) en áreas de montaña (donde la
topografía es más rugosa) los errores son muy altos (veasé el ejemplo de
Escuaín).

A otro comentario de Jonás, respecto a la posibilidad de corregir con JOSM
el desplazamiento, y tras la intervención de Alejandro indicando que estos
errores no son constantes en la imagen, yo he continuado en esa línea
diciendo que efectivamente se puede localmente reajustar la imagen Bing
pero si no sabes loque haces, mejor NO hacerlo pues, para Escuaín, por
ejemplo, podemos mover la imagen Bing para que cuadre en el área de las
edificaciones del pueblo con el Catastro y PNOA pero OJO! la
deformación/error de la imagen no es constante en toda la imagen!!

En el fondo del barranco, por ejemplo, la deformación es menor, por lo que
si hemos ajustado el área de las edificaciones NO PODEMOS fiarnos de que en
el barranco la imagen esté igualmente centrada/correctamente en su sitio.

Si nos centramos sobre Escuaín y abrimos el editor iD [6]  se puede
observar como el término municipal (que está en el fondo del valle) NO
COINCIDE con la imagen ni con la edición que presumiblemente ha hecho
alguien usando esa base. Alejandro, @alejandroscf, es el responsable de que
el núcleo urbano esté correctamente en su sitio (lo hizo con PNOA en JOSM).

Por otro lado, y enlazando con la otra imagen que os comparto vía imagur
[3], centrada sobre el área del Refigio de Goritz (al final y arriba del
valle de Ordesa), sin embargo, las diferencias son menores. ¿Será porque se
trata de un área alta de la montaña?

Aunque pudiera pensarse lo contrario, en relación con la imagen sobre
Goritz, la imagen de Bing es la que parece que tiene mejor resolución pero
(tenéis que hacer un acto de fe) os aseguro ambas imágenes responden a la
misma resolución 0.5 m. Lo que sucede es que la de Bing está más
contrastada por la luz no cenital y le han aplicado filtros de paso alto
(enfoque) [7].

Espero que esta explicación nos sirva para tener claro qué imagen usar de
base para nuestras ediciones en OSM y haber aclarado algunas dudas que creo
que hay al respecto.

Un saludo

Miguel


[1] Ya os había contado al respecto en correo anteriores.
[2] El material lo estoy subiendo provisionalmente a una carpeta de Google
Drive: http://bitly.com/osmzgz15 en la que están las presentaciones que ido
cerrando y material complementario.
[3] http://imgur.com/a/uunhD
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry
[5] http://pnoa.ign.es/
[6] https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/42.59681/0.13045
[7] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procesamiento_digital_de_im%C3%A1genes



*[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
*Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
*Consultor freelance e 

Re: [Talk-GB] Newark on Trent mappers

[SK53]

Thanks for that. I had a feeling that there was an OpenData set of schools.

Perhaps we can persuade Brian & Rob to make schools the next quarterly
project.

Jerry

On 25 November 2015 at 08:42, Christian Ledermann <
christian.lederm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> maybe the edubase data could help with this
> http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/about.xhtml states: The Crown
> copyright-protected material featured on this website (other than
> Departmental logos) may be reproduced free of charge in any format or
> medium, under the terms of the “Open Government
> Licence":http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence
>
> also it could be used to enrich the OS Data with address, telefon number
> etc.
>
> for a quick look at the data edubase provides:
> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schools-in-england
>
> As every school in edubase comes with a postcode it should be
> reasonably easy to correlate the OS and EduBase data, and then weed
> out closed schools
>
>
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 18:31, SK53  wrote:
> > Perhaps not even for those give the number of Academies (also missing is
> the
> > new academy in Dunkirk). Point in Polygons for Food Hygiene data might
> help.
> >
> > It would also be interesting to see what they do with multi-institution
> > campuses. My nephews go to school in one such place.
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 18:15, Phil Endecott <
> spam_from_os...@chezphil.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> SK53 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Quick look (Nottingham, of course):
> >>>
> >>>- Polygons look OK
> >>>- Many features missing (e.g., University of Nottingham Main Campus,
> >>>both sites of Dunkirk Primary School
> >>>- Old features present (e.g., Elms Primary School, closed prior to
> >>> 2011)
> >>>- Reasonably well attributed.
> >>>
> >>> At the very least it could be used to hunt for missing schools (which
> >>> I've
> >>> done a bit of in N Scotland using Food Hygiene data).
> >>
> >>
> >> Having looked at OpenMap Local for Edinburgh a while ago, my impression
> is
> >> that they have used some rather primitive rules to identify "important
> >> buildings".  It picks up anything with "school" in the name, but fails
> to
> >> mark most of the city landmarks - things that are shown in their older
> >> "Street
> >> View" data.  So yes, it might work for schools - but not much else.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,  Phil.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>
> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>
> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
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[Talk-GB] New Year Midlands OpenStreetMap Mapping Meet

[SK53 (via Doodle)]

Hi there,

SK53 (sk53@gmail.com) invites you to participate in the Doodle
poll "New Year Midlands OpenStreetMap Mapping Meet."

I was asked in the pub last night whether we might be repeating the
New Year mapping event after Xmas. Short answer is yes. Hopefully, the
weather will be a bit kinder. No specific location as yet, but there
are plenty of decent possibilities in South Staffordshire. I haven't
added the Sundays as these are awkward for me; but the could be added
if anyone can offer me a lift!
  
  A repeat of the new year meeting
at the start of the year. Possible locations Abbots Bromley, Cannock
Chase or area S of Leek. Similar format walking footpaths in separate
groups meeting up at a pub for lunch (also time when non-walkers can
join us). More mapping afterwards for the keenies.
  
  Jerry

Participate now
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[OSM-talk-fr] Boîtes aux lettres de rue

[Luc]

Bonjour,

En parcourant les archives de la liste de diffusion des dernières années,
j'ai retrouvé un fil datant de 2013 traitant des boîtes aux lettres de rue (
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-October/063562.html).
A l'époque, les données n'étaient pas réellement libre et de mauvaise
qualité. L'idée de référencer les boîtes aux lettres de rue avait donc été
abandonnée.

Depuis le mois de juin dernier, ces données sont disponibles sur
data.gouv.fr, le lien est le suivant :
https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/liste-des-boites-aux-lettres-de-rue-france-metropolitaine-et-dom-1/
.

La Poste affirme proposer des données de localisation fiabilisées à 97,4%
au 18/11/2015.
Les données disponibles sont récentes (dernière MàJ le 18/11/2015) et
plutôt précises dans mon quartier. Je cependant n'ai pas la prétention de
m'engager sur la qualité des données en comparant seulement avec mon
quartier ; il faudrait voir sur un échantillon plus grand.
Dans tous les cas, que pensez-vous de l'idée d'importer ces données dans
osm ?
Cela vous semble-t-il une bonne idée ?

Cordialement,
Luc C.
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Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Dave F.]

How do you perceive these "dangers" will manifest themselves?

Dave F.

On 24/11/2015 23:01, nicolas chavent wrote:

Hi all,


Apologies for crosspostings, resending to talk an email sent to
osmf-talk about the HOT US Inc presence at the Board of the OSMF.

Best,
Nicolas


Dear OSMF voting members and mappers,

This short note (also published in my diary [1]) to draw your
attention on the danger for OSMF (and the OSM project) in the case the
United States NGO "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team US Inc" (aka HOT US
Inc) got a majority at the OSMF Board after this 2015 election.

Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi, all members of the NGO
HOT US Inc, are running for the OSMF Board [2]; Kate Chapman, the
former ED of HOT US Inc serves already as Board Officer in OSMF.

Shall Mikel Maron, Joseph Reeves and Yantisa Akhadi be elected, HOT US
Inc will get a majority at the Board of the Foundation.
This will provide a single organization of the OSM ecosystem (HOT US
Inc) with an unprecedented and excessive power of influence over the
Foundation.

This running of three candidates from the same organization is
puzzling and troublesome when one considers that HOT US Inc (and
therefore its perspective around OpenStreetMap) is already represented
at the OSMF Board since Sept 2013. Why extending its presence and
influence and consequently diminishing the OSM diversity represented
at the OSMF Board?

A greater HOT US Inc presence at the OSMF Board would be a matter of
concern in terms of :
- balance of powers
- diversity of visions, thoughts and practices around OSM
- board dynamics: a collective of HOT US Inc Boardees would interact
with single individuals.
This is a bad practice which is not followed by any Organizations;
this is specifically true for representative bodies (organization
representing organizations) such as OSMF

Here are some elements that OSMF voting members shall have in ming
prior casting their ballot 28-Nov onwards bearing in minds that HOT US
Inc and this perspective about OSM is already represented at the OSMF
Board through Kate Chapman.

The HOT US Inc perspective informs, like other perspectives, the work
of the Foundation and has its effect on the OSM project, there is no
need to take risks in providing this group with more room in the
Foundation which is hot enough in these times of winter.

Best,
Nicolas

[1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nicolas Chavent/diary/36750
[2]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board







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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Boîtes aux lettres de rue

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Bonjour,
Cela a déjà été mise en place dans osmose. Malheureusement à cause de la
qualité des données il a fallut désactiver la fonctionnalité d'aide à
l'intégration.
Tu peux aussi lire un thread sur cette ml et les discutions sur data.gouv.

Frédéric.
Le 25 nov. 2015 12:11, "Luc"  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> En parcourant les archives de la liste de diffusion des dernières années,
> j'ai retrouvé un fil datant de 2013 traitant des boîtes aux lettres de rue (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2013-October/063562.html
> ).
> A l'époque, les données n'étaient pas réellement libre et de mauvaise
> qualité. L'idée de référencer les boîtes aux lettres de rue avait donc été
> abandonnée.
>
> Depuis le mois de juin dernier, ces données sont disponibles sur
> data.gouv.fr, le lien est le suivant :
> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/liste-des-boites-aux-lettres-de-rue-france-metropolitaine-et-dom-1/
> .
>
> La Poste affirme proposer des données de localisation fiabilisées à 97,4%
> au 18/11/2015.
> Les données disponibles sont récentes (dernière MàJ le 18/11/2015) et
> plutôt précises dans mon quartier. Je cependant n'ai pas la prétention de
> m'engager sur la qualité des données en comparant seulement avec mon
> quartier ; il faudrait voir sur un échantillon plus grand.
> Dans tous les cas, que pensez-vous de l'idée d'importer ces données dans
> osm ?
> Cela vous semble-t-il une bonne idée ?
>
> Cordialement,
> Luc C.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 24.11.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Simone F. :
> 
> comunque sarebbe meglio evitare.


si, purtroppo talvolta non si possono evitare, perché chi scrive articoli di 
Wikipedia normalmente non pensa agli effetti per osm ;-)

ciao 
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

[Andrea Solari]

Il 24/11/2015 23:23, Alessandro ha scritto:
> Il 24/11/2015 23:07, Federico Cortese ha scritto:
>>
>> Difficile credere che abbia commesso errori macroscopici, di solito è
>> lui che corregge gli errori ;)
>> Contattalo vedrai che ti deluciderà.
>>
> 
> Basandosi su una carta del 2007 avrà trovato edifici che ora non
> esistono più, di solito in zone diventate commerciali con vecchi edifici
> sostituiti da nuove attività

penso che oramai Openstreetmap sia popolato abbastanza e ritengo inutile
e dannoso fare degli import massivi da mappe non aggiornate

per fare un esempio su Quiliano ha riportato:
la vecchia caserma dei carabinieri, la nuova è stata inaugurata nei
primi anni 2000
una biblioteca in un luogo dove non  c'è mai stato un edificio pubblico
nuova sede del comune di Quiliano (2002) con vecchio edificio

ritengo che chi mappi deve conoscere i luoghi ed esservi almeno stato
una volta per rendersi conto di persona

ciao
andrea

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