"but where Google starts to go haywire is in the properly mapped areas."
As someone who lives remote in the Netherlands, I can agree to that. DHL,
UPS, even ambulances; they are still unable to find my house although I am
living here 7 years now.
But, I think OSM is also going haywire in the Neth
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Andrew Hain
wrote:
> According to the Wayback Machine the last message was posted early in 2015.
Actually on October 17 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/diversity-talk
While it's possible to see the archives, it's not possible to see the
list details.
_
On 2018-02-17 22:02, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote:
> Thanks for pointing it out to us!
>
> I too have some thoughts on points in the article.
> One I agree with, one not
>
> Let me start with this one:
> "No Support For Observational, or Other Datasets"
> This is the point I agree with.
> OSM is missi
According to the Wayback Machine the last message was posted early in 2015.
--
Andrew
From: Sérgio V.
Sent: 17 February 2018 19:56:57
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] diversity-talk: No such list
Hi, I've just realized that in the
https://
Thanks for pointing it out to us!
I too have some thoughts on points in the article.
One I agree with, one not
Let me start with this one:
"No Support For Observational, or Other Datasets"
This is the point I agree with.
OSM is missing out on some valuable information due to this strict
"verifi
Hi, I've just realized that in the
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity
at the bottom, /Resources,
there's no such link to
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
If you click there , or search for it, it returns "No such list diversity-talk".
Is it still alive?
- -
Java and Javascript have only those four letters in common. They are
completely unconnected in all other respects.
On 2018-02-17 19:54, john whelan wrote:
> JAVA script is used by web sites. It does not require JAVA to be installed.
>
> JAVA itself may or may not be a security risk the issue is
JAVA script is used by web sites. It does not require JAVA to be installed.
JAVA itself may or may not be a security risk the issue is that it has been
declared one by the US government in the past and that means many
organisations will not permit it to be installed.
Relevant because it is a con
Curiously enough those same organizations and governments then run
Java web apps on their servers. Java isn't a security risk, Java
applets running inside a browser are the problem. And that's blocked
by browsers nowadays.
I don't understand why this is relevant to the original discussion though..
The JAVA issue comes up as many use work machines and since JAVA has been
identified by the US government as a security risk some time ago many
organisations do not permit it's installation on their equipment.
Which means in simple terms you can't use the building_tool plugin when
mapping building
You would need to install mono to run it and not everyone has mono or wants
it installed(thats the problem with Virtual Machine languages). We would
also have to rename it to Cosm. Doesn't have a nice ring to it ;).
On Feb 17, 2018 1:19 PM, "Mike N" wrote:
> On 2/17/2018 11:01 AM, James wrote:
>
On 2/17/2018 11:01 AM, James wrote:
except it wouldnt be multiplatform and only run on windows 🤢🤮. Java is
a better alternative as it's a popular language and is multiplatform.
C/c++ is a bit more complicated and not everyone can contribute.
That's no longer true - .Net is open source and gene
El 17 feb. 2018, a la(s) 06:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev
escribió:
> This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today:
>
> Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble"
>
> https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/
>
>
> "The Future of Free and Open-Source M
except it wouldnt be multiplatform and only run on windows 🤢🤮. Java is a
better alternative as it's a popular language and is multiplatform. C/c++
is a bit more complicated and not everyone can contribute.
On Feb 17, 2018 10:56 AM, "john whelan" wrote:
> I think that highlights the point on the
I think that highlights the point on the limited resources available on the
resource side.
What we have sort of works. Could it be better? Most probably.
The JOSM editor is very nice but it runs over JAVA and JAVA has been
recognised as a security problem and it not recommended for many
corpora
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:53 PM, john whelan wrote:
> Possibly a technical working group to identify areas that could be
> improved or even if we were to start over again how would we do it from a
> technical point of view? Funding would be a different problem.
>
I believe the now-defunct Strat
I think there are some valid points but change is hard and needs a lot more
resources than we have available at the moment.
HOT has a validation process but if you look at their projects its rarely
used and when it is a new mapper has been permitted to validate.
OSM has come as far as it has with
The emacsen's blog post is spot on. I see it as a call for change from a
person who genuinely cares about OSM, not a bitter rant.
When you say A and the world says B, it maybe well worth considering that B
is the way to go.
I think many other people share his views, but were afraid to voice it,
j
2018-02-17 11:56 GMT+02:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
> For instance, reviews. I hope it will not come to what there is at some
> commercial maps, when one adds say a building and then has to wait for a
> month that an almighty moderator approves it, so that it appears on the map.
This is an expect
On 2018-02-17 10:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today:
Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble"
https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/
Interesting that he mentions that "the proprietary mapping world has
This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today:
Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble"
https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/
"The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps"
https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/02/16/2216228/the-future-of-free-and
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 395,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things
happening in the openstreetmap world:
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10018/
Enjoy!
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