[OSM-talk-fr] Plus de BDOrtho dans iD ?

2018-08-05 Thread Francois Gouget
Depuis une ou deux semaines le fond BDOrtho IGN ne s'affiche plus dans l'éditeur ID (à la place j'ai un fond tout noir). C'est juste moi ? Est-ce un problème temporaire ? -- Francois Gouget http://fgouget.free.fr/ If it stinks, it's chemistry. If it moves, it's

[Talk-es] ¿Cómo corregir nodo con place=village situado en una intersección de calles?

2018-08-05 Thread Jordi Miró Ferrer
Hola a todos, No sé cómo resolver de la mejor manera posible un error que me he encontrado en el municipio de Sierra Engarcerán (la Serra d'en Galceran), en la provincia de Castellón. El nodo que indica el nombre del municipio, además de contener el resto de etiquetas habituales, forma parte

Re: [Talk-br] The social construction of technological stasis: The stagnating data structure in OpenStreetMap

2018-08-05 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Como diz o paper, mudar os mais de 50 softwares baseados na atual estrutura é inviável. Seria necessário a OSMF criar um OSM 2 e fazer o *code freeze* do OSM atual. Seria complicado, mas necessário, pois o modelo Wiki (no qual o OSM atual se baseia) tem dois sérios defeitos, a saber: 1) A

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread David Woolley
On 05/08/18 23:04, Warin wrote: The legal niceties are above me, but the phone book people won ... so even though the facts in the phone book are not copyright, practically you cannot copy them into your own data base. Ridiculous but true. I'd think similar legal arguments could be made in a

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread David Woolley
On 05/08/18 22:00, Mark Goodge wrote: either via a licence which permits re-use or an explicit grant of permission from the rightsholder. That's what a licence is, an explicit grant of permission! The confusion probably arises because of the open source movement's creation of the concept of

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 06:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. Road names and numbers would surely fall within that. I'm not suggesting copying the document and posting it verbatim. There was a long and costly court

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 22:55, Martin Wynne wrote: But C and D numbers are not (normally) public, they are internal identifiers not intended for public use. They often appear in planning applications, and public notices about road works and diversions. So do extracts of detailed OS maps. That

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread David Woolley
On 05/08/18 21:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. That's why the legislators introduced the concept of database rights. OSM works more in the concept of database rights, which don't require creativity,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Wynne
But C and D numbers are not (normally) public, they are internal identifiers not intended for public use. They often appear in planning applications, and public notices about road works and diversions. All of which are intended for public use. I can't see why Worcestershire County Council

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 14:44, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Rob Nickerson wrote: Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these - e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too:

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Mark Goodge
On 05/08/2018 21:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. Road names and numbers would surely fall within that. Public road names and numbers (eg, names on name plates and numbers on road signs) fall within

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Wynne
Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. Road names and numbers would surely fall within that. I'm not suggesting copying the document and posting it verbatim. Martin. ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Wynne wrote: > Google publishes a map for profit. > Worcestershire County Council is paid for by me. And a few others. Sure. The point is that copyright automatically subsists unless expressly disclaimed. WCC has not expressly openly licensed this data. You can't just say "it's publicly

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread David Woolley
On 05/08/18 19:02, Martin Wynne wrote: Worcestershire County Council is paid for by me. And a few others. The only place for which I am aware of national legislation making certain government publications automatically free to use is the USA. Even there it only applies to the Federal

Re: [Talk-it] Cammino del beato Enrico, tag network.

2018-08-05 Thread Alfredo Gattai
Direi a questo punto di fare come suggerisce Volker Il Dom 5 Ago 2018, 18:19 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu < liste.gira...@posteo.eu> ha scritto: > On 04/08/18 15:23, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Cari tutti, > > > > questo capitolo è ancora aperto. La relazione è ancora presente come era > in

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Wynne
Google publishes a map, but that doesn't mean it's an admissible source for OSM. :) Richard Google publishes a map for profit. Worcestershire County Council is paid for by me. And a few others. At this rate, nothing could ever appear on OSM because it is mentioned in a dictionary or on a

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Wynne wrote: > Worcestershire County Council publishes PDF text lists (no mapping) > of classified and unclassified roads. Google publishes a map, but that doesn't mean it's an admissible source for OSM. :) Richard -- Sent from:

hebdoOSM Nº 419 2018-07-24-2018-07-30

2018-08-05 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 419 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/10557/ Bonne lecture ! hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où :

hebdoOSM Nº 419 2018-07-24-2018-07-30

2018-08-05 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 419 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/10557/ Bonne lecture ! hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où :

hebdoOSM Nº 419 2018-07-24-2018-07-30

2018-08-05 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 419 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/10557/ Bonne lecture ! hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où :

hebdoOSM Nº 419 2018-07-24-2018-07-30

2018-08-05 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 419 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/10557/ Bonne lecture ! hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où :

Re: [Talk-it] Cammino del beato Enrico, tag network.

2018-08-05 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 04/08/18 15:23, Volker Schmidt wrote: Cari tutti, questo capitolo è ancora aperto. La relazione è ancora presente come era in OSM e non ho notizie di segnaletica presente sul territorio. (riferimenti: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6032965

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Wynne
There is at least one C road that is signed on the ground because I remember being surprised at seeing it. It's somewhere in Cumbria/Yorkshire but I mapped it so long ago I can't remember where the hell it is Hi Brian, There are dozens of them. See this page for photos:

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:21 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > There is at least one C road that is signed on the ground because I > remember being surprised at seeing it. It's somewhere in > Cumbria/Yorkshire but I mapped it so long ago I can't remember where > the hell it is > Although it could

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Brian Prangle
There is at least one C road that is signed on the ground because I remember being surprised at seeing it. It's somewhere in Cumbria/Yorkshire but I mapped it so long ago I can't remember where the hell it is Regards Brian On 5 August 2018 at 12:34, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Killyfole and

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 15:23 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > So we end up with data that should not be displayed ... but is still  > valid data in terms of the database! Which comes back to they should not be in the ref tag in osm, but in something else such as admin_ref so that those who are

[Talk-br] The social construction of technological stasis: The stagnating data structure in OpenStreetMap

2018-08-05 Thread Gerald Weber
Oi Pessoal artigo fazendo uma análise interessante sobre o OSM e o que o autor chama de estagnação tecnológica: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2053951718790591 abraço Gerald ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Lester Caine
On 05/08/18 14:44, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Rob Nickerson wrote: Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these - e.g:https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 And D designations will be reused in other areas ... I have seen a couple more D5383 such as D5383,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Wynne
There is also the question of the source used, locally the source of these references would be an overlay over an OS map labeled crown copyright making such data incompatible with OSM. I assume that most local authorities will use similar GIS systems? Hi Phil, Worcestershire County Council

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 08:44 -0500, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these -  > > e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 > > That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too: >    

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rob Nickerson wrote: > Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these - > e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/51.5603/-0.3943 Can anyone think of a

[Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these - e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663 Thanks, *Rob* ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fusionner ways en une seule track?

2018-08-05 Thread Shohreh
Merci. Le problème, c'est que cette requête génère des _milliers_ de tracks :-/ …, etc. -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/France-f5380434.html ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > So I hear a urgent traffic update on the radio that there was a forest > fire > on the C425 Eshnadarragh Road and that the Fire Service have closed > the road due to the pumping equipment needed to fight the fire. Dave originally wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] "Nearby features" does no longer work:

2018-08-05 Thread mmd
On 08/05/18 10:18, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Hello, > > Tryin go use [?] - feature I get "Error contacting > https://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter: " > Hint for overpass turbo users: you should still be able to run your queries via the HTTP URL for the time being: http://overpass-turbo.eu

Re: [OSM-ja] State of the Map Japan 2018 参加登録開始!

2018-08-05 Thread K.Sakanoshita
坂ノ下です。 12:45-13:45にランチタイムセッションがあります。 飛び入りLTタイムです。小ネタなど持ち込んでみては如何でしょうか? [Lunch Time Session] https://stateofthemap.jp/2018/talk.html#lts それでは。 On 2018年08月05日 10:59, K.Sakanoshita wrote: 坂ノ下です。 8/11(土)のState of the Map Japan 2018まで一週間切りました! https://stateofthemap.jp/2018/

Re: [Talk-it] Modifica strada

2018-08-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
In questo contesto dei accessi default: Sarebbe utile aggiungere la tabella degli accessi di default per l'Italia sulla pagina https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions Io tengo una bozza per questa tabella mancante in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] arrêt de bus du réseau Mat

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 07:57, mga_geo a écrit : > Ayant ajouté l'attribut 'network' aux arrêts, Osmose les détecte tous, > par exemple http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/19213745550 c'est controversé. l'endroit le + adapté est bien la relation comme le suggère osmose. certains dupliquent l'info de

Re: [OSM-talk] "Nearby features" does no longer work:

2018-08-05 Thread Simon Poole
This is already being taken care of (the operator of the Overpass API is aware of the problem). Simon Am 05.08.2018 um 10:18 schrieb Rainer Bielefeld: > Hello, > > known problem? > > Tryin go use [?] - feature I get "Error contacting > https://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter: " > >

[OSM-talk] "Nearby features" does no longer work:

2018-08-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, known problem? Tryin go use [?] - feature I get "Error contacting https://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter: " shows: The certificate expired on Sunday, August 05, 2018, 6:05 AM. The current time is Sunday, August 05, 2018, 10:14 AM. Error code:

Re: [OSRM-talk] points order

2018-08-05 Thread Sasha Khapyorsky
Hi Guys, May be another "ordering" example: pickup and dropoff points . Let's say I'm delivery man with 10 orders for today, each one should be picked up first and dropped off later. This looks like 20 points TSP, but there are also dependencies - some job(s) can be dependant from another job(s).