Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 6:34 PM Christoph Hormann wrote: > > The content stored in Wikibase is editable by wiki users using a > > regular wiki account, same as with other wiki pages. > > This i have no doubts about - but this is not the question. The > question is who is de facto in control of t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 23.09.2018 17:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > If you'd now impose > > technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things > > that do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would > > effectively make the wiki unsuitable f

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Andrew Hain wrote: > Could you give some examples so that the wider OSM community can do > something about it? I am somewhat reluctant to point to specific people here but there are in particular a few fans of key systematics who eagerly defend their view on how tags

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 23.09.2018 17:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: > If you'd now impose > technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things that > do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would effectively > make the wiki unsuitable for its primary application and mappers would > need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Really heavy browser load with Overpass-turbo map display

2018-09-23 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Dave Thanks for your input Is Leaflet aware and will fix the issue? Switching to an older version of a browser isn't neutral and raise security considerations as always. I didn't find anything relative to this problem on Leaflet github All the best François Le dim. 23 sept. 2018 à 21:13, Da

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018, 14:58 Christoph Hormann wrote: > > For clarification: The main purpose of the OSM wiki is to allow mappers > to document tags they use and allow them to coordinate and communicate > about this use of tags with other mappers. Agree If you have some data > collecting appli

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

2018-09-23 Thread Dave F
The ones in Bath I can easily do as most changesets are repetitions on the same objects. The Antarctic one is just a single edit also. DaveF On 23/09/2018 20:13, Andy Townsend wrote: On 23/09/18 19:59, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 23 September 2018, Dave F wrote: Ever heard of this: h

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Andrew Hain
Could you give some examples so that the wider OSM community can do something about it? -- Andrew From: Christoph Hormann We already have quite a few people on the wiki who try to forbid mappers accurately documenting widely used tags because these tags are ba

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:36 PM Richard wrote: > > Key:bridge:movable:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104 > > Tag:bridge:movable=bascule: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q888 > > how do I get at other language's versions, and how do I get easily at the > original source o

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

2018-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/18 19:59, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 23 September 2018, Dave F wrote: Ever heard of this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62799981 No, that's fake. With a DWG hat on I've sent them a "message that they have to read before continuing to edit".  Are any of the changes

Re: [OSM-talk] Really heavy browser load with Overpass-turbo map display

2018-09-23 Thread Dave F
It appears it maybe Leaflet &/or Firefox related. Reports are it doesn't occur in Chrome/IE. If your turn off Firefox auto updates & install an older version (I used v60.0 from FileHippo) it prevents it. Cheers DaveF On 23/09/2018 17:41, François Lacombe wrote: HI all, It's been a few days

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Dave F wrote: > > Ever heard of this: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62799981 No, that's fake. Even without up-to-date or higher resolution images you can rule this out because you can't build structures like this on a crevassed glacier: https://mc.bbbik

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > > I suspect that the attempts for more structured metadata won't be > > really accepted by the community (the editors of the wiki). > > As one of the more active editors of the wiki, I'm very hopeful for > this project. The current "solution" for

[OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

2018-09-23 Thread Dave F
Hi Ever heard of this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62799981 Given the new user's other fantasy edits in my home city, I suspect this is similar, but I thought I'd check first, even though I could find no other online evidence of it. Cheers DaveF _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Richard
Hi, > as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to > Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked, with images, > validation rules, or anything else the community decides to store there. > See examples: > > Key:bridge:movable:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/It

[OSM-talk] Really heavy browser load with Overpass-turbo map display

2018-09-23 Thread François Lacombe
HI all, It's been a few days that my browser bear a heavy load when running many queries like https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yUw, with overpass turbo. Was any change done on the frontend to get such a load on client side? Tested on firefox 62 64bits All the best François _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 23.09.2018 14:05, Michael Reichert wrote: > Currently, the search of the wiki is not really useful any more. Indeed, the search field is pretty much broken at the moment. However, this has been brought up on the wiki talk page, and Yuri said he was looking for a fix. So I think it's safe to sa

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Dave F
Hi If I type 'bridge' into the wiki search & press return it loads the Key:bridge However if I type it & select the top response in the popdown it takes me to Q103, which AFAICS is of no help to anyone, least of all newcomers who are most likely to use the wiki. 1) Why the difference in sele

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Yuri, Am 18.09.18 um 11:30 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to > Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked, with images, > validation rules, or anything else the community decides to store there. > See examples: > > Key:bridge: