Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

Sure, James. I'm simply calling this as I see it here, in context, with an appropriate audience. SteveA > On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:02 PM, James wrote: > > News outlet sensationalizes story to attract views to its website.I can't > think of one example of this ever happening in the history pf

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

News outlet sensationalizes story to attract views to its website.I can't think of one example of this ever happening in the history pf the planet p.s. I dropped this: */s* On Wed., Jul. 24, 2019, 5:32 p.m. stevea, wrote: > An article such as that proposed by John would almost be a master

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

An article such as that proposed by John would almost be a master's thesis if done correctly and would likely put the typical BBC reader to sleep. Such an article would suffer from the constraints of concision typical in mainstream Western media, which means simply the topics would not receive

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

The BBC article is missing a lot of context and details. The actual Facebook post - https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/ - notes both the importance of human mappers and the local community's on-the-ground contributions, and states "We became close collabor

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

On 24/07/2019 22:15, john whelan wrote: Could someone clarify with the BBC to describe the process and emphasize the community aspect of OSM. Yes - you can do that yourself at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/ , or maybe try the link from https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/artic

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

to be honest I dont find anything about the collaboration. about they being a corporate member and to be caution to what we say, i this this sums it up when they dont: Foundation and community expectations We expect Corporate Members to conduct themselves as good citizens of the OpenStreetMap ecosy

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

My personal view is I think using AI to identify potential highways and buildings is fine but there needs to be a process that includes manual review. Basically the import process. I think my concern was more the idea in the article that suggests OSM welcomes AI mapping and by implication convent

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

On 24/07/2019 20:56, John Whelan wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49091093 I note "Martijn van Exel" is quoted. I'm sure if the BBC wanted to do some actual journalism they could ask some OSM contributors in Thailand what their view was (see e.g. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/vi

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

sent from a phone > On 24. Jul 2019, at 22:16, Tom Hughes wrote: > > I think it's a unilateral self-declared collaboration ;-) We should be cautious with this, they are a corporate member and on the advisory board, so clearly there is some documented kind of collaboration, or at least it l

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

I think it's a unilateral self-declared collaboration ;-) Tom On 24/07/2019 21:07, Nuno Caldeira wrote: so grateful of "The project is a collaboration with OpenStreetMap (OSM)". I might have missed the announcement, can anyone pinpoint me the link of such collaboration being announced? Hope th

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

I'm not sure whether Martijn said this or not, I'm not sure if the BBC reporter was spoofed, I'm not sure what "Map with AI" is (a front, cover or shell company for Facebook or one of its many arms?), I'm simply not sure about virtually everything regarding this story. It seems like a meme plan

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

so grateful of "The project is a collaboration with OpenStreetMap (OSM)". I might have missed the announcement, can anyone pinpoint me the link of such collaboration being announced? Hope they find some spare time in the future to add the attribution on the maps on their website and apps. #prioriti

[OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49091093 Did I miss a discussion on the subject or an announcement from Fredrick on this? I note "Martijn van Exel" is quoted. Many Thanks Cheerio John -- Sent from Postbox ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

I beleive that OSMF will take steps to resolve this. In fact this is exactly the point where we need strong body like OSMF who have funds to pay lawers to settle this down. In fact, I see this as one of the main reasons for OSMF existence - protection of the whole project. Gorn Dne 2019-07-