True, but it might well derail a locomotive in the winter. I once saw a
locomotive derailed by mud that had flowed across the track, then frozen..
Fortunately, the locomotive was moving slowly enough that it didn't cause a
catastrophic accident.
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:19 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> If you can map a street in just five seconds, using just three clicks and a
> keypress, this implies that you are mapping just the end points, with just a
> calculated line between them. Very few streets in the wor
e, a lot of that extra
information about roads is irrelevant).
Of course, we don't build maps just for our own individual
preferences, but we're certainly biased towards including the
information that interests us personally.
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> So, you are saying that you feel OpenStreetMap should reflect the
> status of the road when the aerial photo was ma
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Date :Thu Aug 26 17:40:42 America/Chicago 2010
On Thursday 26 August 2010 22:45:58 John F. Eldredge wrote:
> As far as I know, we aren't trying to make a f
many different contributors used it.
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2010/8/26 John F. Eldredge :
> What additional tag would one use to state that a particular path is not
> advisable for vehicular use (for instance, because it contains steps at one
> or more points), but doesn't have a sign forbidding vehicular use?
this is
ot;, it's just "sewer".
Tim.
On 27 August 2010 06:29, John F. Eldredge mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com> > wrote:
The term "culvert" is also standard usage in American English. "Tunnel" is
generally used to mean an underground passageway large enough for a per
ing the canal with them.
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A
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However, should someone uncover a real conspiracy, any attempt to reveal it to
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"Theory" does not mean "nonexistent"; the fact that the theory of gravity
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Date :Sat Jul 31 01:29:02 America/Chicago 2010
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> I have to admit that I am bad about not bother
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If you know the latitude and longitude of where you would like to create a POI
in Potlatch, but can't locate the exact position in the Yahoo aerial view (due
to tree cover), how can you create a POI at that known latitude and longitude?
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Is there a summary available, in layman's language, of the differences between
the old license and the proposed new license? I am still a bit unclear on the
net effects, other than a sizable amount of the data being moved from the OSM
database to a different database.
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erator", now I just fill it in as if it were "name of franchise" or
"brand".
It was not the best choice of English word to start with, but we are probably
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I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to
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So, what happens in your region if the road planners decide to alter the
position of part of a road, such as making a curve more gentle? Are the
municipal borders then shifted so that they still match the roadway, or so they
now differ from the road's location?
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True, but paper maps are usually not printed at a scale where including street
numbers are practical.
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I think the "bell" is more likely a street light in a bell-shaped reflector.
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ginal mapper. I have
also seen cases where the official map of an area shows a roadway, or even
minor bridge, that had been planned but never was built.
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rcial real-estate
development. Potlatch will let me reposition or lengthen the street, but won't
let me remove the street. How can I remove this short and no-longer-existing
street using Potlatch?
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retained some degree of local government have formal boundaries, but there are
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This sounds like a good compromise to me, as most people will have a general
agreement of where a given neighborhood is located, but differ about where the
boundaries are located.
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Given that the spill is constantly expanding, mapping it would become a
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names and some didn't.
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Good suggestion.
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On 2 June 2010 22:06, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> I agree that foot_unsafe=yes would proba
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closed for repairs,
or is one-way in the wrong direction, that doesn't give you an excuse to drive
through the road anyway.
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[OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki
2010/5/31 John F. Eldredge :
> This brings up another question. On the tagging list, there is currently a
> discussion of whether or not to tag areas that have frequent traffic jams.
> If something is only verifiable part of the time, such as
"verifiable on the
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, as well as some
(in the same nature preserve) that are so narrow and steep that they are
passable only on foot.
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It is not unusual for roads to have signage for both the local name and also an
official route name (sometimes multiple route names).
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Also, the name "Van Hoevenburg Trail" doesn't necessarily mean that it passes
through the Van Hoevenburg Property. That might be the name of the current
land-owner, the name of a former land-owner, or simply the name of some notable
person whom the trail was named after.
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, and see the values
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to find what this land is used for
Even if you get he street names off another map.
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Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:59:57
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Subject: Re: [OSM-t
In English usage, a dwelling is a residence. So, a farmhouse would be an
isolated dwelling; a building not used as a residence, such as a restaurant or
train station, would be an isolated building, but not an isolated dwelling.
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English has a proverbial expression, "going to hell in a handbasket", meaning
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Well, we could always use handcart, rather than cart, so as to specify that we
don't mean the horse-drawn variety.
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I agree that cart=yes would probably be the best solution. That way, you avoid
the confusion between different regional dialects, and the context would let
you know whether a shopping cart, luggage cart, or whatever was meant.
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Perhaps amenity=luggage_trolley for airport or train station use? In American
usage, "trolley" is a synonym for "trolley car", as in street railways. So,
you are likely to see American mappers using amenity=trolley for streetcar
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Speaking as an American, I think that amenity=shopping_trolley would be
sufficient to tell people that we aren't talking about trolley cars (street
railways), and it wouldn't be hard to learn the meaning of "shopping trolley".
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em as shopping carts.
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> The tag is for know if a shop has trolleys. All the details are in the wiki.
> Thanks in advance for comments.
Why would shops have light-rail trains?
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Having the river move doesn't necessarily move an boundary that had run along
the river. It depends upon how the boundary is defined.
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As I mentioned in my real-life case of the Rio Grande changing channels, a
larger shift in a river's course can leave dry ground, that had formerly been
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small geographical area is visible on-screen. This makes
it not particularly practical for large-scale POI searches.
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So mtb:scale=5 would be a vertical cliff?
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22
taken off-premises, the restaurant
will lose its license to sell alcohol. This is intended to make it harder for
adults to buy beer or liquor on behalf of under-age drinkers.
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The dine-in vs. takeaway distinction can be a bit blurred. I have seen some
small ice-cream establishments that seem to be about half dine-in and half
carry-out.
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To:
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> Lar Kiesel wrote:
>
>> I was the culprit who did the user lkrevert revert to user NE2 change set of
>> Columbia, SC, US.
>>
>
> Thank you for finally coming forward and explaining.
>
>
>> The reasons for the revert was because NE2 had changed many segments of S
Even within your own time zone, IRC only allows you to communicate with people
who are online right now, not someone who might log in an hour from now.
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In the case of metal, even a thin film or mesh can block RF signals if any
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Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal
in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am
near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor barrier in
the attic.
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both highways
for routing purposes, as well as being marked by the street name as well.
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n't overwrite existing streets.
* run the validator, merge street segments
* join streets that end near each other.
* don't upload points that are not connected.
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high-res but poorly
georeferences aerial photos.
Looking at a sat-image you don´t know if not all of that photo is 50
or 200 meters off unless you
are on the ground to compare.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> If only man-made artifacts are displaced, but not the terr
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