Re: [OSM-talk] level_crossing, leveled

2011-05-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
True, but it might well derail a locomotive in the winter. I once saw a locomotive derailed by mud that had flowed across the track, then frozen.. Fortunately, the locomotive was moving slowly enough that it didn't cause a catastrophic accident. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Policy - Valid User Agent

2011-05-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 05/02/2011 09:45 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Having once been a sysadmin, I can attest that (a) sysadmins tend to be night people, not morning people; and, when we do get to sleep, we sometimes get phone calls from users, waking us up. The latter is one of the reasons that sysadmins some

Re: [OSM-talk] PD tick box

2011-04-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
__ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserv

Re: [OSM-talk] Most complete cities and administrative divisionsdatabase

2011-01-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
, ..) > > you can do this with relations > > >> 4/ Are there polygons for these administrative divisions and countries ? > > you can get them from the relations (if the relations are there and > are clean). Have a look at type=boundary and type=multipolygon > > Ch

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
se by routing software. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
/Chicago 2010 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:19 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > If you can map a street in just five seconds, using just three clicks and a > keypress, this implies that you are mapping just the end points, with just a > calculated line between them.  Very few streets in the wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
e, a lot of that extra information about roads is irrelevant). Of course, we don't build maps just for our own individual preferences, but we're certainly biased towards including the information that interests us personally. Steve _______ talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
misplaced >From :mailto:ed...@billiau.net Date :Sun Dec 19 13:37:25 America/Chicago 2010 On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:19:03 +0000 "John F. Eldredge" wrote: > So, you are saying that you feel OpenStreetMap should reflect the > status of the road when the aerial photo was ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
place than if I were to actually visit that place and add details from on the ground. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to thi

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
public db (TIGER). David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping house numbers

2010-11-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
enstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
location is 26,380m from the start of the road. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
shop front than if they grind their own wheat... _______ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is bette

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
/ditch . ___ Tagging mailing list tagg...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all.&qu

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
/ditch . ___ Tagging mailing list tagg...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all.&qu

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
gt; talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Dr. Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK email: grahamjones...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F.

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps Misplaces Lincoln Memorial

2010-08-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
eetmap.org/search?q=obama+drive ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps Misplaces Lincoln Memorial

2010-08-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
rg/search?q=obama+drive ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at al

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
__ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
of an area. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor >From :mailto:carti...@xs4all.nl Date :Thu Aug 26 17:40:42 America/Chicago 2010 On Thursday 26 August 2010 22:45:58 John F. Eldredge wrote: > As far as I know, we aren't trying to make a f

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
many different contributors used it. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
59:01 America/Chicago 2010 2010/8/26 John F. Eldredge : > What additional tag would one use to state that a particular path is not > advisable for vehicular use (for instance, because it contains steps at one > or more points), but doesn't have a sign forbidding vehicular use? this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
ot;, it's just "sewer". Tim. On 27 August 2010 06:29, John F. Eldredge mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com> > wrote: The term "culvert" is also standard usage in American English.  "Tunnel" is generally used to mean an underground passageway large enough for a per

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
ing the canal with them. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Culvert-and-average-contributor-tp5466555p5466615.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
wheels vehicle like a moped or a motorbike (or no wheels like a snowmobile ;-). Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0continuation

2010-08-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria __

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0continuation

2010-08-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
the database or edit in future... who is making the ultimatum exactly? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to th

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
? > > We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Rese

Re: [OSM-talk] collection/street relation: which one to use?

2010-08-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
treet name to the street (as name) and addr:street to the building/shop etc. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to

Re: [OSM-talk] A GPS Trace Visualizer

2010-08-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
maxspeed=* tagging and also where traffic lights exist. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation

2010-08-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
clude that it is not a theory anymore, independent if it is a realy conspiracy or not. It is easy to say something in the line of "FBI plotted to assassinate JFK", but to prove it is harder, independente if they did or not. A On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:56 PM, John F. Eldredge mailto

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation

2010-08-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
However, should someone uncover a real conspiracy, any attempt to reveal it to others would be discussion of a conspiracy theory, and therefore forbidden. "Theory" does not mean "nonexistent"; the fact that the theory of gravity exists does not mean that gravity does no

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline missing in Lake Superior - in case anyonenotices...

2010-08-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
__ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
of contributors in the Netherlands: Too many imports! -- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for

Re: [OSM-talk] Languages, OSM, scripts and all that.

2010-08-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
ffort? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypa

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
location. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments >From :mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk Date :Sat Jul 31 01:29:02 America/Chicago 2010 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:27:43 John F. Eldredge wrote: > I have to admit that I am bad about not bother

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
anges made, rather than trying to get something meaningful by way of the comment field... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think,

[OSM-talk] Placing a node at a known latitude/longitude

2010-07-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
If you know the latitude and longitude of where you would like to create a POI in Potlatch, but can't locate the exact position in the Yahoo aerial view (due to tree cover), how can you create a POI at that known latitude and longitude? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Re

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussionmore inclusive?

2010-07-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
ailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

[OSM-talk] Summary of differences between old and new licenses

2010-07-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
Is there a summary available, in layman's language, of the differences between the old license and the proposed new license? I am still a bit unclear on the net effects, other than a sizable amount of the data being moved from the OSM database to a different database. -- John F. Eldredge

Re: [OSM-talk] fact-based vote?

2010-07-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
e the OSMF has the same wish as you and I and will come up with a reasonable plan when the first is answered positively. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexand

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
erator", now I just fill it in as if it were "name of franchise" or "brand". It was not the best choice of English word to start with, but we are probably stuck with it. _______ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.ope

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
k mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria _

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
tificates before > tagging restaurants? I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

2010-07-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
second by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;) Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eld

Re: [OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
So, what happens in your region if the road planners decide to alter the position of part of a road, such as making a curve more gentle? Are the municipal borders then shifted so that they still match the roadway, or so they now differ from the road's location? -- John F. Eldredge

Re: [OSM-talk] Why quality is more important than routing speed

2010-07-04 Thread John F. Eldredge
However, you can't be certain, without personally checking the street in question, whether the street really has no speed limit signs, or whether the person who added the street to the map simply failed to add the speed limit tag. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve

Re: [OSM-talk] Why quality is more important than routing speed

2010-07-04 Thread John F. Eldredge
ways. What can I do to force the ways to be joined? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Kai Krueger Sender: talk-boun...@openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-04 Thread John F. Eldredge
True, but paper maps are usually not printed at a scale where including street numbers are practical. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Origin

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-04 Thread John F. Eldredge
map has over a paper map. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: "Oliver \(skobbler\)" Sender: talk-boun...@openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Tsunami warning siren?

2010-06-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
I think the "bell" is more likely a street light in a bell-shaped reflector. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From:

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
Gutenberg Australia web site, without it being legal for users in the USA to download those works. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch

2010-06-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
ginal mapper. I have also seen cases where the official map of an area shows a roadway, or even minor bridge, that had been planned but never was built. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all."

[OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch

2010-06-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
rcial real-estate development. Potlatch will let me reposition or lengthen the street, but won't let me remove the street. How can I remove this short and no-longer-existing street using Potlatch? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to t

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regionalboundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
areas that have retained some degree of local government have formal boundaries, but there are disagreements about where one unincorporated area shades into another. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
This sounds like a good compromise to me, as most people will have a general agreement of where a given neighborhood is located, but differ about where the boundaries are located. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping the spill

2010-06-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Given that the spill is constantly expanding, mapping it would become a full-time job if you wanted the information to be anywhere close to up-to-date. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think a

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also amotorway junction?

2010-06-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
names and some didn't. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Richard Weait Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:45:25 To: Nath

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
Good suggestion. --Original Message-- From: John Smith To: John Eldredge Cc: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off... Sent: Jun 2, 2010 7:19 AM On 2 June 2010 22:06, John F. Eldredge wrote: > I agree that foot_unsafe=yes would proba

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
, while trying to cross the highway on foot. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: John Smith Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:38:31 T

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-05-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
closed for repairs, or is one-way in the wrong direction, that doesn't give you an excuse to drive through the road anyway. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
[OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki 2010/5/31 John F. Eldredge : > This brings up another question.  On the tagging list, there is currently a > discussion of whether or not to tag areas that have frequent traffic jams.   > If something is only verifiable part of the time, such as

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
"verifiable on the ground"? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Anthony Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 11:59:28 To: Fred

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=footway or highway=track for peds only ongravel

2010-05-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
, as well as some (in the same nature preserve) that are so narrow and steep that they are passable only on foot. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Origin

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
It is not unusual for roads to have signage for both the local name and also an official route name (sometimes multiple route names). -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions regarding the mapping of hiking trails

2010-05-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, the name "Van Hoevenburg Trail" doesn't necessarily mean that it passes through the Van Hoevenburg Property. That might be the name of the current land-owner, the name of a former land-owner, or simply the name of some notable person whom the trail was named after. -- J

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
, and see the values of more tags. A restaurant POI, for example, could tell you the hours it is open and what sort of food it serves, assuming these tags had been set. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Quarry or construction?

2010-05-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
engine to find what this land is used for Even if you get he street names off another map. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
7;t a dwelling. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:59:57 To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-t

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
In English usage, a dwelling is a residence. So, a farmhouse would be an isolated dwelling; a building not used as a residence, such as a restaurant or train station, would be an isolated building, but not an isolated dwelling. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your rig

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
English has a proverbial expression, "going to hell in a handbasket", meaning that things are going wrong at a rapid pace. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- H

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, we could always use handcart, rather than cart, so as to specify that we don't mean the horse-drawn variety. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
I agree that cart=yes would probably be the best solution. That way, you avoid the confusion between different regional dialects, and the context would let you know whether a shopping cart, luggage cart, or whatever was meant. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your rig

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
Perhaps amenity=luggage_trolley for airport or train station use? In American usage, "trolley" is a synonym for "trolley car", as in street railways. So, you are likely to see American mappers using amenity=trolley for streetcar stops. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfe

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
Speaking as an American, I think that amenity=shopping_trolley would be sufficient to tell people that we aren't talking about trolley cars (street railways), and it wouldn't be hard to learn the meaning of "shopping trolley". -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com &q

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
em as shopping carts. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Ken Guest Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:57:09 To: Kev js1982 Cc: OSM - Talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
ote: > The tag is for know if a shop has trolleys. All the details are in the wiki. > Thanks in advance for comments. Why would shops have light-rail trains? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/t

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
Having the river move doesn't necessarily move an boundary that had run along the river. It depends upon how the boundary is defined. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all."

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
As I mentioned in my real-life case of the Rio Grande changing channels, a larger shift in a river's course can leave dry ground, that had formerly been on one side of the river, now on the other side of the river. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

2010-04-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

2010-04-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
buildings each. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Frederik Ramm Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:31:41 To: Brian Quinion Cc: OSM Subject

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

2010-04-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

2010-04-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
-code boundary so that a particular street or neighborhood will be in a more-prestigious Zip code. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message-

[OSM-talk] POI-searching application

2010-03-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
small geographical area is visible on-screen. This makes it not particularly practical for large-scale POI searches. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypati

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
So mtb:scale=5 would be a vertical cliff? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: "Mike N." Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
taken off-premises, the restaurant will lose its license to sell alcohol. This is intended to make it harder for adults to buy beer or liquor on behalf of under-age drinkers. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not t

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
The dine-in vs. takeaway distinction can be a bit blurred. I have seen some small ice-cream establishments that seem to be about half dine-in and half carry-out. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to thi

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
road and a state-level road, etc. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: John Smith Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:30:46 To:

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Lar Kiesel wrote: > >> I was the culprit who did the user lkrevert revert to user NE2 change set of >> Columbia, SC, US. >> > > Thank you for finally coming forward and explaining. > > >> The reasons for the revert was because NE2 had changed many segments of S

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Even within your own time zone, IRC only allows you to communicate with people who are online right now, not someone who might log in an hour from now. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think a

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users wantdriving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the case of metal, even a thin film or mesh can block RF signals if any openings are smaller than the wavelength of the signal. Look up "Faraday cage". -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not t

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor barrier in the attic. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfel

Re: [OSM-talk] Two different ways with the same nodes?

2010-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
both highways for routing purposes, as well as being marked by the street name as well. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message

Re: [OSM-talk] Way out west

2010-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
g list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
n't overwrite existing streets. * run the validator, merge street segments * join streets that end near each other. * don't upload points that are not connected. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better

Re: [OSM-talk] Whereami not working on nokia 5800 MX

2010-01-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Intriguing artifacts in GeoEye data

2010-01-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
high-res but poorly georeferences aerial photos. Looking at a sat-image you don´t know if not all of that photo is 50 or 200 meters off unless you are on the ground to compare. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > If only man-made artifacts are displaced, but not the terr

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