Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:22 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM I've notice a few ways in OSM like this one:

Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM On 12-03-19 19:45 , Paul Norman wrote: I'd just retag as highway=service, but it definitely belongs in the DB if there's a road

[Talk-ca] Township of Langley roads background layer

2012-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
I have finished my translation file for the Township of Langley roads data. The resulting output is available at http://maps.paulnorman.ca/langley/Roads-201204.zip Included are the shapefiles, ogr2osm translation file, and .osm output file. This file is not to be blindly imported, but used as

[Talk-ca] City boundaries on the Canada/US border

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Norman
There are a significant number of cities in BC and Washington which have borders that in practice[1] coincide with the Canada/US border. Currently in OSM these are represented with many nearly-overlapping ways. The Canada/US border here consists of the BC-WA border, BC-ID border, BC-MT border,

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed mechanical edits: GeoBase/CanVec Service Surface and GeoBase/CanVec name spaces

2012-04-06 Thread Paul Norman
Since no one has objected (or commented) I'll go ahead with this if I can get it in before the rebuild starts. -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:04 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed

Re: [Talk-ca] upcoming Canadian press coverage and your local group

2012-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] upcoming Canadian press coverage and your local group Dear all, I expect that OSM will be getting some press coverage in the Canadian media in the near future. This is a wonderful opportunity to launch your

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline or water polygon

2012-04-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:55 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] coastline or water polygon Hello: I'm removing red dots on the north coast of Nova Scotia at the moment with canvec data. The canvec data

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ian Bruseker [mailto:ian.bruse...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:31 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? On 2012-04-15, at 6:37 PM, Steve Singer st...@ssinger.info wrote: I also feel that not of all data sources are

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Publicly available WMS server?

2012-04-20 Thread Paul Norman
Websites normally use TMS for backgrounds, not WMS. WMS is generally a lot slower than TMS. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WMS might help with finding a WMS server for OSM data. To make your own WMS server you could either use a program that turns tiles to WMS or renders directly to WMS.

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
2. There is not a consensus among the community that CanVec data can be imported without verifying the data for internal consistency and where possible against imagery. If no one disagrees with the fact there is not a consensus that importing CanVec without minimal verification is acceptable

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? Steve, Paul, I was on the impression that the consensus was more about using Canvec where it is the best available source and, when it is not, the data could be imported, but

[Talk-ca] FW: [Talk-us] City boundaries on the Canada/US border

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - forgot to include talk-ca@ in this -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:50 PM To: 'Toby Murray'; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] City boundaries on the Canada/US border I started working my way across

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data

2012-06-21 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: webmas...@the506.com [mailto:webmas...@the506.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:51 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data Hello...long time reader, first time poster. You may know me as

Re: [Talk-ca] Tr : [OSGeo-qc] Données ouvertes : gouvernement du Québec...

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Fabian Rodriguez [mailto:magic...@member.fsf.org] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 4:16 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tr : [OSGeo-qc] Données ouvertes : gouvernement du Québec... On 06/30/2012 03:51 AM, Frank Steggink wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] redaction bot coming soon!

2012-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] redaction bot cbbboming soon! Dear All, The redaction bot is now in North America. You can watch the progress here: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php Each area starts from the

Re: [Talk-ca] redaction bot coming soon!

2012-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
The logs (linked from that square) say which way it was. It looks like the maritime boundary was large enough that two instances of the bot tried to delete it at the same time From: Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:43 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk-CA

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?

2012-07-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: David E. Nelson [mailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again? Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed?  I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. The

[Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
This is based on http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-July/008830.html, a recent talk-us@ discussion about TIGER tags. Parts of this message are a copy/paste from there. Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any

Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:57 PM To: Steve Singer Cc: Paul Norman; Toby Murray; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags I'd keep the accuracy:meters around. I've used that for other things (mainly

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:40 PM To: talk-us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags I was unaware of the TLID bug and the fact that TIGER has changed their data model although I kind of wondered about this because I didn't see a

Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags I think the ways tagged with sub_sea would need to be deleted, not just the tag itself. These tend to be hydrological topology connectors under lakes

[Talk-ca] New Lower Mainland Imagery sources

2012-08-18 Thread Paul Norman
After some technical and legal work, I now have a number of imagery layers hosted on a rented server. These layers cover from Vancouver to Hope in 20cm or better and Lions Bay to Pemberton as 40cm or better. 10cm imagery is available for Vancouver, Richmond, Ladner, West Delta, the North Shore,

Re: [Talk-ca] New Lower Mainland Imagery sources

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Norman
You're supposed to copy and paste the URL from the table or click on the link, not copy the link. I'll see if I can clarify that in the documentation. From: Matthew Buchanan [mailto:matthew.ian.bucha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:01 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec import issues

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Norman
I see the problem as being the importing of everything as being the problem, not the geometric model :) From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:49 PM To: 'Pierre Béland'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec import issues Bonjour

[Talk-ca] Canada and US Imagery bounds

2012-09-13 Thread Paul Norman
I've gone and updated the imagery bounds and bboxes for both Potlatch 2 and JOSM for the North American imagery sources. JOSM should now only suggest a source if it actually covers the area. Potlatch 2 will still suggest sources even if they don't cover the area because potlatch 2 only supports

Re: [Talk-ca] BC: New Port Mann bridge partly open

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
The surrey2012 should have some more from the south side. I'm thinking about going and driving back and forth a few times with my GPS and my camera set to auto so that I can get all of the exits. Anyone interested in a driving mapping party? Of course I'd get to redo it all in a couple

Re: [Talk-ca] Surrey 2012 imagery

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
I'm getting it from the City of Surrey. If you get imagery under a compatible license I could look at hosting it. City GIS departments generally have imagery but they may be reluctant or unable to release it. Surrey releases their data and imagery under the PDDL

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Importing CanVec better?

2012-10-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maury Markowitz [mailto:maury.markow...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:28 PM To: impo...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Imports] Importing CanVec better? Newb here, so I hope this is the right place to ask. I also posted on one of the wiki talk pages, but I didn't know if

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:04 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues Hi everyone, I've done some OSMInspector debugging of areas around Montreal and I've come across a number of newly imported

Re: [Talk-ca] Limites administratives, municipalités, MRC et régions du Québec

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
Just a reminder, if you’re proposing to import the admin boundaries, you need to follow the steps in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines, which includes not just talk-ca@ but the imports@ mailing list. My recollection is that boundaries for statscan purposes sometimes differ

Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:22 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring I see that Canada is pretty good at the admin2 (Country) level, and the admin4 level (Regions) except for a few islands in the Hudson and James

Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:22 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I don't know how it works in the rest of the country, but in Alberta, once

[Talk-ca] BC Resource Roads

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I was importing some CanVec in northern BC and came across a resource road on bing, which I also added, but I realized I wasn't positive on the best tagging. A typical example is http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.395lon=-122.074zoom=16 These roads exist for forestry and oil and gas use. In

Re: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 2:58 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions What is the best was of adding a new subdivision like this one east of Kelowna? I've only used Potlatch.

[Talk-ca] CanVec bug - splitting of long riverbank ways?

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I appear to of found a CanVec 10 bug in 094P13.0.osm There is a waterway=riverbank way (Dilly Creek) that is split in two at 59.7728641, -121.9806992. One way is 2k nodes, the other is 457 nodes. Ideally this would be split in two to form two separate areas. An alternate solution would be to not

Re: [Talk-ca] Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
@openstreetmap.org Cc: Paul Norman; Nicolas Gariépy Subject: Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking Data import is essential to cover all of Canada, But it is complex to import Canvec files in areas were data already exist. Both unexperienced and experienced people may make errors. Import

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts I've just performed my first edits, in our neighbourhood. One thing I noticed was that some of the buildings are duplicates. I assume this is part of what you are talking about when you

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Dan Charrois [mailto:d...@syz.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts Usually, in remote areas of the north that I've dealt with, there is often little else already there than the Landsat lakes. And usually, in a given tile, there is usually just a handful of lakes.

Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:20 PM To: Bruno Remy; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border You can get the boundary coordinates from the IBC - International Boundary Commission. I also checked

Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area

2012-12-07 Thread Paul Norman
Do you know when you’ll be proposing this import to the various lists? From: Pierre Béland [mailto:infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:55 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area Tom For the Québec

[Talk-ca] Toronto-area events in early January

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Norman
I'm going to be in Toronto in the new year and was wondering if any OSM or GIS events, meetings or mappy hours would be taking place. I'll be arriving on the 2nd and leaving on the 7th for Penetang but might be free after that. I'll mainly be spending time with the relatives, but the dates for

Re: [Talk-ca] Osmose, Outil de qualité, maintenant disponible pour le Québec

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Norman
I’ve been looking at a bot to fix the double-space issue with CanVec/Geobase, but no idea when I’ll have the time for it so don’t let that stop anyone else interested from developing one, consulting, etc. Serge’s work in the US with TIGER name expansions might be helpful. Also, just a

Re: [Talk-ca] [OpenDataBC] Call for Speakers @ Open Data BC Summit on Feb 19, 2013 Vancouver

2013-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
Resenting to the right address... Sent from my iPad On 2013-01-03, at 12:09 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I'm considering going to this conference and presenting on OSM use of open data. I figure it might be of interest to a few people as data used by us will be used by Wikipedia

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] (sans objet)

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
I see that there is an event in Vancouver and some people from the city will be there. I'd like to compile a list of issues with the Vancouver license beforehand. I know rweait had some as blog posts but I think they're offline. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Pierre Béland

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags

2013-02-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags Hello: Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in or strip them out? There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or any tag, for that matter).

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good. Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data. Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are

Re: [Talk-ca] New Bing imagery in Montreal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
With the new Montreal open data, perhaps they have aerial photography they can release? Or perhaps they already have, but I couldn't find any. If someone can get it, I can host it. From: nicholas ingalls [mailto:nicholas.inga...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:18 AM To: Harald

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Copyright in data

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks for the link. It's good to see a court decision reminding parties that (in Canada) there is no copyright in data. From the court decision: However, there is no principle of property law that would preclude anyone from making use of information displayed in a publicly available paper

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Darryl Shpak [mailto:dar...@shpak.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca Good morning everyone, So: I am just about to renew this domain for another year. I would like to pass control of the domain over to the Canadian mapping community, to someone who will do something --

Re: [Talk-ca] Question?

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Norman
This is not correct – there are no mandatory tags, and there is no legal reason why a source tag can’t be removed. Incidentally, source tags are perhaps the ones most frequently removed as osm2pgsql drops them by default. If you’re looking at doing an import

Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Norman
Chances are good that this is a bug with HTTPS anywhere and Firefox. If you are using that extension with Firefox, disable the OpenStreetMap Wiki ruleset. See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/8841 for the corresponding HTTPS anywhere ruleset bug. From: Stewart Russell

Re: [Talk-ca] Advice on Addressing

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Norman
Individual addresses are always preferable to interpolation lines, interpolation lines are just an approximation so if you have all the addresses in a block you shouldn't also have interpolation lines as the latter duplicates the former. As for how to tag the addresses, if they're buildings

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada [I guess Bernie's original subject of ‘G8 leaders sign open data charter of principles’ might've made this important announcement sink without trace.] Bernie Connors wrote: Is there

[Talk-ca] Kelowna Open Data

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
I don't know how this slipped under my radar, but Kelowna BC has open data, licensed under the PDDL. I see that they have 2012 aerial photos, which I'll work on hosting, although I might need to upgrade my server first. What's more interesting is they have some address data. If there is a local

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Singer [mailto:st...@ssinger.info] Cc: 'Matthew Buchanan'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence Wouldn't the multiple Information Providers kick is as soon as you combined data from Vancouver with any other source such as the existing OSM

[Talk-ca] Lake Erie shores

2013-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
I happened across http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1205150, a relation with name=Lake Erie. My recollection is that last time this came up we decided that as the Great Lakes are large lakes by any reasonable standard they are best represented as natural=coastline. Thousand-member MPs

Re: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC

2013-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:spero.shirope...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:55 PM To: 'David E. Nelson' Cc: 'Paul Norman'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC I am no legal person by any means, and Nanaimo has adopted v2 of the OGL since I last looked at it. Paul Norman

Re: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC

2013-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
We seem to be jumping ahead a bit quickly. We haven’t solved the legal issues about using any of their data, so it seems premature to be worried about the technical details. Once the legal issues get cleared up I can easily take the Nanaimo imagery and host an imagery layer which can be added

Re: [Talk-ca] Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes?

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Norman
Interpolations are generally regarded as approximations until we can get individual addresses mapped. The post in case was about if was more common to map a building with an address as one way with a building tag and address tags or as one way with a building tag and a node with address tags.

[Talk-ca] Open Government License - Canada

2013-11-03 Thread Paul Norman
cc'ing to a few people who I have talked about this with in the past. Some governments in Canada have released data under the Open Government Licence - Canada, version 2.0. This is yet another new license. Some people have asked if we can use datasets available under this license.

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data

2013-11-04 Thread Paul Norman
. From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data Agreed. I see that Paul Norman imported some of the City of Surrey GIS data a couple of years ago and that included house numbers. Cheers Steve On 04/11/2013 6:16 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: I think Daniel's

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:29 PM To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Cc: 'Levene, Mark'; 'David E. Nelson'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada cc'ing to a few people who I have

[Talk-ca] Making use of Kelowna open data

2013-11-11 Thread Paul Norman
I've been setting up a new server and setting up new imagery and other resources for the OSM community. One that's basically finished is some stuff making use of the City of Kelowna data, published under the PDDL. I've put up a page demoing what I've done at

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 1:34 PM To: 'Richard Weait'; 'Connors, Bernie (SNB)' Cc: 'Talk-CA OpenStreetMap' Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB?? Provinces provide roads to NRCan that simply package it for GeoBase and

[Talk-ca] Nanaimo OGL license

2013-12-19 Thread Paul Norman
Previously[1] I looked at the OGL - Canada 2.0. The federal government opinion is that the license is compatible with the ODbL and CC BY. The OKFN regards the OGL - Canada 2.0 as meeting the Open Definition. The OGL - British Columbia and OGL - Nanaimo are different licenses. Aside from

Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
Both landuse=forest and natural=wood may be used to indicate an area with trees. There are differing views about what the tags mean, so it is possible for one person to sensibly use landuse=forest to map something while a different person would use natural=wood to map that exact same thing.

[Talk-ca] GNS tag cleanup

2014-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
About 6 years ago, a set of data was imported from GNS, consisting of place names, mainly of place=town. As an example, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/52556192/history Thy have a few tags, many of which can probably be safely automatically eliminated by editor software. Using the example

[Talk-ca] CanVec updates without a version bump

2014-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
I was having a look at New Westminster in tile 092G02.1.1, and I noticed that there are differences between CanVec 10.0 which I downloaded when it came out and what I just downloaded from the CanVec webpage, which is also labeled CanVec 10.0 Addresses have been added, and with them, errors

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Daniel Friesen [mailto:dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:10 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? I'm a little new to OSM, recently I found that neither of the city boundaries for the Langley area

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
No one has raised the issue on legal-talk@ since CC 4 was released. From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:43 AM To: diane.merc...@gmail.com; Talk-ca (OSM) Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec Merci Diane pour

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
CC BY 3.0 and earlier had onerous attribution requirements for data. I believe 4.0 fixes this. I don't think anyone has suggested contacting a data provider who's licensed under CC 4.0 licenses to clarify attribution. The issue with 3.0 attribution are not purely theoretical, there have been

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: William Rieck [mailto:bi...@thinkers.org] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? Hi Paul, I was following your message until this statement, where I got confused. Are you saying the city of Langley is not a city? What

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
; Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? Oups I was wrong in identifiying the polygons in JOSM. These are two adjacent polygons, the city being surrounded by the township. The difference in spelling comes from the alt_name=Langley. I should have

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: workflow for elevation data

2014-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data To: Charles Basenga Kiyanda perso...@charleskiyanda.com There was a service, run by long time OpenStreetMap user lambertus, that displayed an elevation profile graph

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: perso...@charleskiyanda.com [mailto:perso...@charleskiyanda.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:27 AM To: Harald Kliems Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec The question of where does the coastline end and riverbank start

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Norman
You’re best off tagging the road (highway=track probably, maybe highway=unclassified) and indicating that it’s part of the Trans Canada Trail with a relation. From: Brian Lang [mailto:bril...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:15 PM To: Richard Weait Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

[Talk-ca] Local Vancouver meeting: Map Central Park

2014-06-03 Thread Paul Norman
I am planning on hosting a mapping event in Central Park (http://osm.org/way/23165846), in Burnaby, BC. My tentative date is Sunday, June 15th at around noon, but if people want a different time I could shift it. The park is a major park in the region, but under-mapped, with potentially not

Re: [Talk-ca] Local Vancouver meeting

2014-06-04 Thread Paul Norman
digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Local Vancouver meeting: Map Central Park (Clifford Snow) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:53:03 -0700 From: Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us To: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com

[Talk-ca] Canadian OSM POI quality

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Norman
I was curious how complete OpenStreetMap shop data was, so decided to do an analysis for some Canadian chains. The results were mixed. Starting with a Canada extract, I processed the data into PostGIS and ran queries against name, brand and franchise for objects where amenity, office or shop was

[Talk-ca] Central Park meetup: lot full

2014-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
The parking lot at swangard stadium is full for an event. Parking lot off of boundary nearest, marked for pool/stadium. Call 604 7792432 if needed. Wearing high vis osm vest Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-ca] Mapillary coverage in Vancouver

2014-07-28 Thread Paul Norman
For some time I have been taking pictures to map from, and now that Mapillary is out, I finally have a way to share them. Mapillary is a company that is making a service similar to the old OpenStreetView, where they collect pictures of roads. The difference is that they currently offer the

Re: [Talk-ca] Winnipeg Open Data portal

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/1/2014 10:16 AM, Michael Zajac wrote: Does this look compatible with OSM? No one has yet evaluated the various OGL variants for compatibility with other licenses. I've gotten explicit statements of compatibility from some sources. For that matter, the various variants aren't listed as

[Talk-ca] Inaugural Vancouver Meetup - Tuesday October 28

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
On Tuesday October 28th, there will be an OpenStreetMap meetup held in Vancouver. http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver/events/214167332/ We'll be holding it in the Bread Garden in Metrotown (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/257886760), with convenient access to transit and nearby

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal data source attribution

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/9/2014 8:48 AM, Steve Singer wrote: What is the current procedure for meeting the attribution requirement of a municipal data-source released under the 'Open Government Licence ? Unfortunately each Open Government License is different, and when I've asked about license compatibility

Re: [Talk-ca] RIP CanVec

2014-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/17/2014 5:50 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: Is there any way to de-tile the data? I realise that most of Canada is one giant water relation, but is there a data processing pipeline that can recognize and join up split entities? I looked at this, but it's better to go back to the original

Re: [OSM-ja] osapon imports

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Satoshi IIDA [mailto:nyamp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:59 PM To: OpenStreetMap Japanese talk Cc: d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-ja] osapon imports Hi Please let me confirm one point. Is it mandatory to using dedicated account to import? We devided

Re: [OSM-ja] 市の名称: ローマ字

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Norman
Also sorry for answering with English. The practice in some regions of using name=Local Name (English Name) breaks multi-lingual renderings *badly*, because if you try to then do an English map you end up with English Name (Local Name (English Name)). The OSM.org Mapnik rendering is not

[OSM-ja] Deletable KSJ2 import tags

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Norman
I was working on osm2pgsql stuff and ran across a lot of tags from the KSJ2 import, many of which can probably be deleted. It looks the shapefile - osm conversion dumped all the shapefile attributes in as KSJ:* tags Below are a couple of samples, English in brackets is a translation Way

Re: [OSM-ja] [Imports] Deletable KSJ2 import tags

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: Satoshi IIDA [mailto:nyamp...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [Imports] Deletable KSJ2 import tags I think all the those tags are deletable. Unless someone objects I'll be going with the following tags as some of the ones I listed earlier occur very

Re: [OSM-ja] [Imports] Deletable KSJ2 import tags

2013-09-13 Thread Paul Norman
:RAC KSJ2:RAC_label KSJ2:RIC KSJ2:RIN KSJ2:WSC KSJ2:coordinate KSJ2:curve_id KSJ2:curve_type KSJ2:filename KSJ2:lake_id KSJ2:lat KSJ2:long KSJ2:river_id -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:27 PM To: 'Satoshi IIDA' Cc: impo

[OSM-ja] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed

2014-01-11 Thread Paul Norman
Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont as a fallback font to render Chinese, Japanese and Korean (CJK) characters, as well as any other characters not present in the DejaVu font. Unifont is mainly designed to support all characters, and is not designed to look good. I'm

Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:19 PM To: t...@openstreetmap.org; talk-ja@openstreetmap.org; talk- k...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont

[Talk-GB] iD en_GB localization

2013-10-23 Thread Paul Norman
Unlike the OSM website, the default language for the iD editor is en_US. Because there are differences between en_US and en_GB, I've had an en_GB translation added, but translators are needed to fill it out. Instructions for translating iD are at

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-10-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD Rob Nickerson wrote: 2). iD is a general purpose editor. It can be used for OpenHistoricalMap too. Indeed - perhaps I should have been clearer that I'm talking about the

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 4:44 AM To: Paul Norman; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD Paul Norman wrote: It's worth pointing out that iD doesn't actually have an imagery list

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:03 PM To: 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD It's worth pointing out that iD doesn't actually have an imagery list. It inherits its from the editor

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Hobbyist OSM Data Server?

2013-12-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 4:59 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Hobbyist OSM Data Server? So I'm wondering whether we could, if enough people raise contributions, have an OSM read only, hobbyist server which could be used to host

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-08 1:28 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: What would you consider a demonstration of success exactly? Tom Tom, Measuring the success of a bot can be done in the same way that the success is measured in a statistical model; Type I and Type II errors. So for example, if the test is to

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