Re: [OSM-talk] American or british english

2007-12-20 Thread Robin Paulson
On 21/12/2007, Hanno Böck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I wondered how tags should be named if the used word can be american or british english (e.g. everything that contains centre/center in some way). I wouldn't care which one to take, but I think there should be some policy for that case.

[OSM-talk] voting open - tram station

2007-12-25 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for discussion for some time now, and the major objection has been answered: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Tram_station voting is now open please take note of the final comments by 80n and UlfL, concerning renderers understanding what way a node is

Re: [OSM-talk] building= Modified Proposal - Request For Comments

2008-01-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 01/01/2008, Mike Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, this tag is already being used extensively experimentally and is the current featured image of the week. Where there is Yahoo imagery, I find it great for characterising an area by tracing out just the important buildings. Other

[OSM-talk] voting open man_made=rig

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been open for two weeks now, with no objections. voting is now open, for two weeks http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/rig thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] proposed feature - amenity=preschool

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
i have cleaned up the proposal for preschool, could i get some comments lease. please note, that voting does not usually take place until comments have been requested, discussed and objections resolved

[OSM-talk] RFC - railway=miniature

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for discussion for 4 months now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Miniature_railway it looks pretty straightforward - could i get some comments, if there are no objections i will open for voting next week thanks

[OSM-talk] new proposal - railway=turntable

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
i've put forward a new proposal for comments http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Turntable any opinions and suggestions welcome thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] new proposal - man_made=dike

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
i've submitted a new proposal for discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dike could i get some comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] request for more votes - man_made=wastewater_plant

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for voting for a week now, could i get some more please, so we can decide one way or the other http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Wastewater_plant thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] rfc - sport=aussie_rules

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been around for 7 months now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Australian_rules_football could i get some more comments so we can agree on something and get voting open thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] voting open natural=saltmarsh

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for comments for three months now, with no objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Saltmarsh voting is now open, for two weeks thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] more votes requested - man_made=sub_station

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for voting for 2 weeks now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/sub_station it currently has 9 yes votes and 0 no votes. could i get some more, to either approve or reject it? thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] new proposal accepted - man_made=pipeline

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
the voting period has now ended for this proposal, it has passed with 10 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Pipeline it has been added to the map features and approved features pages ___ talk mailing

[OSM-talk] rfc - man_made=city_wall

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been up for 9 months now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/City_wall could i get some more comments please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] redundant proposal? - man_made=fenced_compounds

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
in my quest to tidy the proposals page on the wiki, some proposals have come up which appear to be redundant is there an acknowledged way of removing them, without going through the whole comments/opinions/voting process? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Fenced_compounds

[OSM-talk] rfc - man_made=well

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been a proposal for 2 months now, with very few comments http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Well_Water i've tidied up the proposal, could i get some comments please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] rfc - tourism=gallery

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been a proposal for 5 months now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Art_gallery i've changed it form attraction to tourism, as the attraction top-level tag does not exist yet could i get some comments please thanks

[OSM-talk] rfc - power=

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
there are various keys under the man_made tag which represent power stations. there is a proposal under way to deprecate these and replace them with one tag, under the 'power' top-level tag http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants comments please

[OSM-talk] removel of duplicate proposal - roundend and RFC - turning_circle

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal is a duplication of another proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/RoundEnd before creating proposals, please check to make sure it does not already exist, either as a proposal or as an approved feature it has been removed from the proposed features

[OSM-talk] new proposal - military=naval_base

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
there is a new proposal on the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/naval_base could i get some opinions and comments please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] RFC - sport=model_aerodrome

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been open for two months now. i've tidied it up; could we get some comments, with a view to opening voting soon http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Model%27s_Aerodrome thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] more information needed - tourism=rest_camp

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
could the person who proposed: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Rest_Camp please provide some more information on the proposal? it is unclear what it is actually for, beyond duplicating a range of other tags failing that, could it be removed from the proposals page

[OSM-talk] RFC - tourism=chalets

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Paulson
i've tidied up this proposal, it's been dormant for several months now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/chalets could i get some comments please, i would like to open voting soon to move it off the proposals page thanks ___

Re: [OSM-talk] redundant proposal? - man_made=fenced_compounds

2008-01-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/01/2008, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there an acknowledged way of removing them, without going through the whole comments/opinions/voting process? Ye, it would certainly be good to be more aggressive in cleaning up up the Proposals page, it is hard to casually browse

[OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-07 Thread Robin Paulson
while i was looking up some info on wikipedia [1], i noticed that a lot of pages have a lat/lon value to describe their location; this strikes me as something we could use to increase the amount of data in OSM it would require a mass download of data from all the pages that contain these values,

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 08/01/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while i was looking up some info on wikipedia [1], i noticed that a lot of pages have a lat/lon value to describe their location; this strikes me as something we could use to increase the amount of data in OSM it would require a mass

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-09 Thread Robin Paulson
On 08/01/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while i was looking up some info on wikipedia [1], i noticed that a lot of pages have a lat/lon value to describe their location; this strikes me as something we could use to increase the amount of data in OSM These are almost

[OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-09 Thread Robin Paulson
can someone explain a few things about the way boundaries work, and their relation to the is_in key? as far as i can tell, when a location (say the suburb of balham, in london) is added to the map, the is_in tag needs to be set, multiple times. in this case, it would be set as follows:

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-09 Thread Robin Paulson
On 10/01/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [co-ordinates on Wikipedia] really, that sounds like it would contravene wikipedia's rules and google's terms of use? and is it our responsibility to pre-guess what wp editors are doing? i think taking their data at face value is

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is more important to me, and this is question for all who know, how to cope boundaries *between* two areas, like administrative ones? How to cope with boundaries of different administrative levels? If a line is a boundary between

[OSM-talk] RFC - checkpoint

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been on the proposals page for 8 months now, with very little attention paid to it http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Checkpoint a request for comments and opinions, please thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
further to my previous post about editing the wiki, are there any mediawiki gurus here? a set of templates (or even one!) for proposals would save a lot of time, does anyone feel like volunteering to create one? hopefully, this would give some guidelines for people when proposing tags, and save a

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Gerald A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/01/2008, Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mediawiki templates require passing in arguments to the call to them, which isn't really suitable for large clumps of text. I'm not a template guru, but there are ways to create a

[OSM-talk] RFC - model aerodrome

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been languishing for 2+ months now, with little discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Model%27s_Aerodrome please could i get some comments thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] voting open - ship

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has no unanswered objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/ship voting is now open thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] RFC - deletion of football tag

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this tag has now been superseded by gridiron, rugby league, soccer, etc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/football in the interests of doing things properly, i've created a proposal for deletion, similar to how we handle proposals for creation of tags. i'd rather not

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The border of a country is not the coastline, but (at the very least) 12 nautical miles from the coastline and in some places, much further than that. ok, let's say i wanted to use this as a basis for drawing the national

[OSM-talk] tidied proposal/RFC - waterfall

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
i did a bit of work tidying this up, although it's basically sound as far as i can see - should be pretty straightforward http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Waterfall comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal approved - dam

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
voting has now closed on waterway=dam, with 14 approve votes, and no object votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dam it has been moved to the approved features page thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] new proposal - reservoir

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
in a bid to keep things consistent, i've created a new proposal for waterway=reservoir, and suggest deprecating landuse=reservoir http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/reservoir comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] maritime borders (was: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/01/2008, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as a curiosity: 12 NM was chosen because it it the farthest point a person can see from the shore (due to Earth's roundness). Or something like that :) according to wp, it was the range of a cannon in 14th c or something

Re: [OSM-talk] maritime borders

2008-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 13/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: according to wp, it was the range of a cannon in 14th c or something XIV c. ships would draw rather then carried a cannon that could shoot as far as 22.2 km. It must be something different. i should say, i'm no expert on this, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hierarchies (was: RFC - lake)

2008-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 13/01/2008, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 12, 2008 2:10 PM, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I'm looking at a satellite image and I see a body of water. Is it a lake/reservoir/dam/blah? I don't know. Yet the proposed scheme forces me to choose one with a

Re: [OSM-talk] maritime borders (was: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 12, 2008 11:32 AM, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be an interesting thing to implement. It would involve creating a union of circles (with radius of 12 NM) and then determining the border of that union. If

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-13 Thread Robin Paulson
On 13/01/2008, Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildstock of course, i remember seeing these in austria now. yes, they are quite prominent aren't they and maybe map-worthy after all - would you be willing to put a proposal up

Re: [OSM-talk] maritime borders (was: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-13 Thread Robin Paulson
On 13/01/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll start a wiki page. anyone here have any experience with drawing libraries? i'm sure we can do this by re-using something that's already there ok, here we go. i've put in some rough details of the method i suggested earlier. if anyone

[OSM-talk] voting open - crane

2008-01-13 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been proposed for 2 weeks now, with no disagreements, time to open voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/crane thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed - swimming_pool

2008-01-13 Thread Robin Paulson
On 14/01/2008, Brent Easton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are votes both for and against, then it requires 14 Yes votes to get something through, but only 1 No vote to can it. In fact, the No voters are more likely to prevent a proposal by NOT voting against a proposal once the first

Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed - swimming_pool

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 14/01/2008, Brent Easton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chill out guys, I'm merely pointing out an interesting anomaly with the current voting scheme. I don't particularly care if you change it or not. I am not having a go at you Robin, who are doing a terrific job. not at all, i didn't

[OSM-talk] RFC - railway=service

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
this was pretty sound already, i've done a bit of tidy up and proposed some tag values, as well as splitting it into three sub-proposals. hopefully it captures the intent of the original proposer http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Service could i get some comments please

[OSM-talk] proposal guidelines

2008-01-15 Thread Robin Paulson
further to my e-mails last week concerning badly-documented proposals, i've put together a proposals guideline page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Creating_a_proposal could i get some impressions on it please? i would like it to be fairly comprehensive, but at the same time i don't

[OSM-talk] voting ended? - population

2008-01-15 Thread Robin Paulson
does anyone know what's happening with this tag? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Population it appears to have been voted on, but it isn't really clear what, the tags were only added after voting had completed. i think it's rejected (11 yes to one no), but the last

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
On 17/01/2008, Sebastian Spaeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for it. And I am still of the opinion that more people would vote if there was an easier voting mechanism. I had already implemented a prototype of an e-mail voting system, where proposals would be send in mail (in addition to

[OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal rejected - saltmarsh

2008-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been open for voting for two weeks now. it has been rejected, with 6 no votes and 3 yes votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Saltmarsh it will be moved to the rejected features page i will put together a new proposal for sub-keys to the 'marsh' tag,

[OSM-talk] voting open - railway=turntable

2008-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for comments for two weeks now, with no issues http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Turntable voting is now open, for two weeks thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] zenbu data import - suggestions please

2008-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
some of us on the new zealand mailing list are working on a proposal to import data from www.zenbu.co.nz, a business listing site in new zealand http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Zenbu is the page that's been put together for coordinating the work on this data as this sort of thing has

Re: [OSM-talk] CLC2000

2008-01-17 Thread Robin Paulson
On 18/01/2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree that this might be a useful resource for establishing reasonably current land usage. However the first two bullet points of their terms immediately give me a problem: 1. not to use the

[OSM-talk] voting open - power_plant

2008-01-19 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been around for 8 months now, time to open voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants this proposal has two parts: to create the new power=power_plants tag and make the old man_made=nuclear_power, man_made=solar_power, etc. obsolete thanks

[OSM-talk] proposal rejected - climbing_wall

2008-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
voting has ended on this proposal, with 6 yes votes and 3 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Climbing_Wall the proposal will be moved from the proposed features page to the rejected features page thanks ___ talk

[OSM-talk] more votes requested - petanque

2008-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has become very muddled http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/P%C3%A9tanque two users have now voted no on it, for not entirely explained reasons - please, if you are going to comment on a proposal/oppose a vote, provide some reasoning behind your comment, or

[OSM-talk] RFC - shooting

2008-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been re-proposed, with amended tags: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Shooting comments please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal rejected - climbing_wall

2008-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
On 22/01/2008, Rob Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Paulson wrote the following on 22/01/2008 07:44: voting has ended on this proposal, with 6 yes votes and 3 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Climbing_Wall the proposal will be moved from the proposed

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal approved - cave_entrance

2008-01-22 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, this proposal has been passed with 15 yes votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Cave_entrance it will be moved to the approved features and map features page thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal approved - museum

2008-01-23 Thread Robin Paulson
this tag proposal vote has been open for two weeks now, and has passed with 14 approvals and 1 disapproval http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Museum voting is now closed, the proposal will be moved to the approved features and map features page thanks

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal approved - battlefield

2008-01-23 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, this vote has closed, with 111 approval votes and no disapprovals http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Battlefield the proposal will be moved to the map features and approved features page thanks ___

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=stop

2008-01-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 24/01/2008, Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Shall we put the node on the way where the sign is, a little bit before | the intersection (and how much) ? or is it planned to use a relation ? | or does it really help to tag such signs (I mean, it does not influence | routing)

[OSM-talk] voting closed/proposal rejected - hov access

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Paulson
voting has been open on this for 4 weeks. it has now closed, with 4 yes votes, and 1 no vote - the proposal was rejected http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/hov_access it will be moved to the rejected features page thanks ___

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal approved - turning_circle

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Paulson
voting on this proposal has now closed. the proposal has been approved, with 21 yes votes and 1 no vote http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Turning_circle it will be added to the map features and approved features page thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Osmarender requested enhancements

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 25/01/2008, Adrian Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: highway=ford is a node tag. According to map features. There shouldn't be any gaps. maybe it should be a way as well, some rivers are pretty wide Then shouldn't it be highway=whatever ford=yes - by analogy with bridge=yes and

[OSM-talk] tag vote open - ferry terminal

2008-01-28 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for comments for several months now, with no objections. time to open voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Ferry_Terminal thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal rejected - mining

2008-01-28 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for vote for 6 weeks now, it has closed with 6 yes votes, 1 no vote and 3 votes which are ambiguous. in future, please either vote yes for the proposal or against it, not for part of it and against part of it, or we will never get anywhere. if you have objections, these should

[OSM-talk] vote closed/proposal approved - crane

2008-01-28 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for voting for 2 weeks, and has now closed. it has been approved, with 6 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/crane it will be moved to the map features and approved features page thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-28 Thread Robin Paulson
On 29/01/2008, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote the following two weeks ago because I felt that the talk list was a bit flooded by administrative voting ends, voting opens, comments requested etc. messages: would it make sense to create a new mailing list - say [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-28 Thread Robin Paulson
On 29/01/2008, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if nobody wants to write digests, then IMHO it's just not a good idea to move to a seperate mailing list. well, if other people keep up with the rfc open, tag vote open, etc. categories i put together last week, it should be pretty

[OSM-talk] landuse tagging

2008-01-30 Thread Robin Paulson
there have been a few discussions recently concerning proposed landuse tags, that have brought up a question: what is the definition of landuse, in the context of OSM? i ask, because a number of the tags that have been suggested in this category, seem to be badly thought out - it appears to have

[OSM-talk] [tagging] filtering of tagging e-mails (was Re: Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?)

2008-01-30 Thread Robin Paulson
from now on, until someone creates an extra tagging list, i'll include [tagging] in every tag proposals e-mail, to let those of you who aren't interested, filter out this stuff easily. every e-mail client has filter capabilities, so this shouldn't be a problem. i'll come up with some way of

[OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
taking on board one of Frederic's comments from last week: there are a lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current method of tag proposal/ratifying i think it would be a good idea to group a lot of these tags

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting open - peninsula

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for comment for two weeks now, time to open voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/peninsula thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - pumping_rig

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for over two weeks, and currently has 4 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/rig could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - chalets

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 4 yes votes and 0 no votes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/chalets could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. thanks ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting open - railway=service

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
after several weeks of RFC and a re-work of the tagging, this is open for voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Service thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC open - rack railway

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been around for several months now with little input, so i've done a bit of cleanup http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Rack_railway time to open for comments thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, more usefully, Potlatch now automatically resizes itself to your browser window. Still a couple of rough edges to iron out (particularly with the Yahoo imagery) but hope you like it! woooah, col thank richard, been

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds good, but why not go a step further: There could be a page on the wiki for simple proposals, and anything that gets no objections for a week is automatically approved and added to Map Features. i'm not too comfortable with that -

Re: [OSM-talk] Template:Key and Template:Tag pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Hakan Tandogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is that the template only shows official values for the shop key, but there might be more tags that are used only locally. Could the template render those additional tags after the official list, perhaps with a divider row

Re: [OSM-talk] Template:Key and Template:Tag pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Hakan Tandogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I'm talking about creating a Map_Features page where new values for given keys (e.g. highway, shop) appear. The only part I'm complaining is that the Template only allows the approved values whereas I'd like it to show the

[OSM-talk] [tagging] new proposal - graveyard

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
i've noticed that there are two tags for places where people are buried - cemetery and graveyard, with an ambiguous distinction between the two this proposal is to make one obsolete http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/graveyard comments are welcome

[OSM-talk] [tagging] vote open - handball

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has bene open for commetns for several weeks now, with no major objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Handball voting is now open, until 2008-02-18 thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I can live with it and I think it's a good idea to move the stuff to power so I reverted my vote, I guess we can consider this to be approved and can close the voting. Are you gonna do the next steps? plus, of course, lots

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current method of tag proposal/ratifying i think it would be a good idea to group a lot of these tags together in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think it would be a good idea to group a lot of these tags together in one proposal, [...] [] I guess, lot's of the simple tags are not that simple when you look more close at it, but let's have a try at Robins idea

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread Robin Paulson
On 10/02/2008, Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wiseLYNX wrote: There is even an italian expression, viale alberato which specifically describes an avenue with tree lines.. Could an avenue exist without tree lines? not in english - it explicitly means a road with trees. although

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries that run along roads - in the Mapnik layer

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/02/2008, Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did I not think of that? (slaps head). In fact, I could put them in as layer=5 which will put them on top of virtually any other conceivable feature (like, a river underneath a three-layer highway intersection...) In fact, I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/02/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/02/2008, David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The reason being that the segment

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 08/02/2008, David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The reason being that the segment crossing the river to close the area marks a boundary which does

Re: [OSM-talk] unpaved residential

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/02/2008, Alex S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lukasz Stelmach wrote: 1. why there is (i'll answer it in a moment) unsurfaced highway while in practice every highway can have surface=unpaved? Highway=unsurfaced is old. Surface=unpaved is much more recent, and should be used by

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting closed/proposal approved - power_plants

2008-02-16 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, and two extended weeks, this proposal has been approved, with 17 yes votes, and 1 no vote http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants it will be moved to the approved features and map features page thanks for voting

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting closed/proposal approved - ferry terminal

2008-02-16 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, this proposal has been approved, with 13 yes votes, and 0 no vote http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Ferry_Terminal#Voting it will be moved to the approved features and map features page thanks for voting

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting closed/proposal approved - naval base

2008-02-16 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, this has been apprvoed with 8 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/naval_base it will be moved to the approved features and map features page thanks ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19/02/2008, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaaarrgggh! snip Deliberately tagging things incorrectly is bad practice. There are so many renderers out there that if what you do works for more than one of them that's just coincidence. And when bad practices like this

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