Re: [Diversity-talk] Diversity and Inclusion session - SOTM

great! thanks. -- +1 336-269-1539 / @lizbarry / lizbarry.net On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:53 AM Heather Leson wrote: > HI folks, building on last year's Open Gender Monologues, I am submitting > a session for SOTM on Diversity and Inclusion. The deadline is today

Re: [Diversity-talk] "The Post-Meritocracy Manifesto"

Thank you for this. The concept of meritocracy is referenced in the explanatory documents of early open source communities (Apache, Mozilla, ...). -- +1 336-269-1539 / @lizbarry / lizbarry.net On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Rory McCann wrote: > Hi all, > >

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

inside out. I would happily re-read this book and book club it with any group of people thinking deeply about open source community health. I am really grateful for everyone here, thanks for reading, Liz PS, in case you still feel like reading, here's the full sourcing of the lineage that

Re: [Diversity-talk] Diversity in FOSS projects Call

Thank you so much for sharing this! -- Liz Barry <http://publiclab.org/profile/liz> director of community development PublicLab.org / @PublicLab <http://twitter.com/publiclab> / Public Lab events <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=5vots6khle6

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Klong Toey Slums

t in http://mapknitter.org/, then it's one click to loading that base imagery in any/all of OSM's editors for tracing over. I copied the grassroots mapping list where there are people to chat with about DIY aerial imagery for mapping. Yours, Liz -- +1 336-269-1539 @lizbarry <http://twitter.com/lizbar

Re: [OSM-talk] Www.openstreetmap.org Down?

maybe something local. no tiles loading for me in Brooklyn, NYC USA @lizbarry http://twitter.com/lizbarry On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.comwrote: The site is up and traffic is at expected levels. Does the site not respond at all or a part not load?

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

+1 @lizbarry http://twitter.com/lizbarry On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: On Jul 29, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Lester Caine wrote: John Firebaugh wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

+1 to Alex's original post -- the new attribution mark is well designed and versatile for its purposes. The shape of the folded map links the attribution mark with our logo. +1 spiffed up copyright page BUT the proportion of image to information above the fold still needs finetuning, as well as

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

I quickly put the logo side by side with the attribution mark. I feel it is clearly of the same family, linked by 1. the shape of the folded map 2. the color grey in the magnifying glass handle i uploaded the JPG to twitter -- https://twitter.com/lizbarry/status/327071379105120257 What do

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:44:13 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: As we are trying to tell you, AGIMO, who owns the data.gov.au domain, does not grant any copyright permissions whatsoever. They are a place which

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

owned dataset. My sister cannot give the permission because the photo isn't hers. The Dunny Database is quite specific in its licence on this point - prohibiting sublicensing absolutely. I have not examined any of the other individual licences of data on AGIMO's site. Liz

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:10:36 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:19:56 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 16:31:38 +1000 Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote: The Princes Highway is an historical curiosity, and internal name management name assigned by the NSW roads authority, and the name of a bunch of roads between Sydney and Adelaide. It isn't a route any longer. I'm

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:20:15 +1000 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: According to Wikipedia, it should extend all the way from Adelaide to Sydney: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_Highway according to my personal knowledge, it has run between Adelaide and Sydney via Melbourne for

Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:32:14 +1000 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 26/08/11 13:33, Nick Hocking wrote: I'd really like it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM) were just deleted. Then II'd be much more inclined to drive there and collect all the infomation. Having

[talk-au] GPS traces

I have removed all my gps traces from the OSM database. I have worked primarily from survey. If anyone wishes to query my edits regarding source, position etc, I am happy to answer private emails or email via the OSM site regarding my gps traces. ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, Richard Weait wrote: The OSMF are OpenStreetMap contributors. However OpenStreetMap contributors != OSMF because OSMF is a subset of contributors (although being a contributor is not a prerequisite, so this may not be completely true).

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, Richard Weait wrote: Every time OSM contributors have been asked, they have supported ODbL (or license change before ODbL had a name). All the way back to SotM Manchester. And all the way forward through polls and surveys and more SotM conferences. All the time,

[OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions

The complete lack of any arguments left in the brains of the pro-ODbL lobby shows in the complete falling apart of any discussion on this list, with previously thoughtful people concentrating on personal attacks on others, mostly claiming that they are making personal attacks. So 1. From where

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Please Do Not Feed The Trolls. The person who has chosen the pseudonym Jane Smith has a right to have their point heard. I would not consider this person to be a troll, whether or not I am the person recalled as intending to be publicly

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: data will not be available under ODbL temporarily. I'm very sure it will be re-mapped, probably within less than a year. I disagree, especially without access to some of the existing data sources, and so far no one is offering to come to

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Andrew Harvey wrote: FYI. As per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#One_feature.2C_one_OSM-ob ject I've removed a whole bunch of nodes where the same feature was mapped out as a way. I made sure not to loose any tags in the process. Changeset

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, John Smith wrote: On 31 August 2010 17:30, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote: Sarcasm switch firmly on. :D Can anyone explain why aussie humour isn't understood in most other parts of the world? I put the question to google

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Rob Myers wrote: If OSM ends up asking governments to reduce people's freedom to use map data in order to restore that freedom, do you really think that would be a good idea? This is a new concept on the list, that OSM starts negotiations with governments over licensing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually I feel that you treated this issue a little negligent. The import guidelines stated since 5 March 2008 (quote): At the time of writing (spring 2008), well spring isn't in March (here) spring starts shortly so whoever wrote that was a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: First go through all the nodes: If a node was positioned in a particular place by an accepter, keep it, otherwise revert it to the last accepter-positioned location. If no accepter

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing graphic

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, 80n wrote: By way of a rather tongue-in-cheek contrast I thought I'd prepare my own graphic showing how many OSM contributors have now agreed to CC-BY-SA. In this graphic the green boxes are those who have agreed and the red boxes are those who have not:

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0continuation

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Serge Wroclawski wrote: 2. Much more stringent requirements are put on lots of projects You may have heard of the GNU project. Are you aware that all contributors to GNU project must sign over not just license agreements, but copyright assignments? Just this week a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Hi, On 20 August 2010 03:09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: one million objects is really not something we should make a big fuss about. [...] After the Haiti earthquake, 1 million objects were traced by 300 people in two weeks.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, pavithran wrote: Re: NR for natural reserve . IMHO using names for landuses doesn't look good . Replacing it with some other art work which converys the same meaning would be a better idea. I agree with your point - as soon as we consider users of non-Latin scripts and

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Alex S. wrote: On 20/08/10 18:00, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? Now when it is finished in 30 minutes you'll all be happy If it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Maybe it's fine to publish advice as public opinion in Australia. I don't know. If I, as a company director, in Australia, receive legal advice obtained for that company, I can share it with the entire Board, and then the Board makes the decision on with whom

Re: [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Grant Slater wrote: OSMF is just a legal entity to do things. OSM is the project. There are people behind. I was a part of the OSM project as soon as I contributed and I am not part of OSMF. Those are thus 2 different things. You access OSMF paid for resources

Re: [OSM-talk] I quit

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Chris Hill wrote: OK, this stupidity has gone too far. Now the 'moderator' is arguing with the trolls on a 'moderated' list. I quit this list. I see you use Thunderbird. I'm sure you can filter off any correspondents whose posts annoy you and not have to leave the

Re: [OSM-talk] A GPS Trace Visualizer

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Toby Murray wrote: I personally tag all my trace uploads with mode of transportation (bicycle, car, walking) as well as the make and model of the GPS unit (garmin, edge 305) but yeah that probably can't be relied upon too much. I don't break the trace at the point at which

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal: rental=*

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Peter Wendorff wrote: It's the same question in other cases, too: - post offices as service of normal shops vs. selling office stuff as service of post offices - kind of shops inside shops, in Germany e.g. Tchibo deals with that business model a lot; the real

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Papers integration with OSM.org ?

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Michal Migurski wrote: big snip I've got some work toward this goal on a branch, mostly consisting of adding a bbox to the URL in the QR code and increasing the print dimensions of the code to account for the consequently higher resolution. If the request doesn't return

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL?

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: Personal conclusion: The CC-BY-SA license are great on fully creative works. It was never intended to be applied to highly factual data and information, and if it is, it is vague and confusing. If you believe strongly in pandemic virality, then it

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Please move all legal discussion (except announcements of course) to http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk or http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-general Steve stevecoast.com I think that is censorship. Not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributor terms (was : decision removing data:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: At 02:58 PM 12/08/2010, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal review from OSMF's lawyers... Yes. Our initial desire was to have something very short, more in-line with what is now the

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the streets in (say) Canberra On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Grant Slater wrote: There is also a plan of action if people are found to be making these sorts of abusive edits. I can

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: [...] That said, the strategy adopted by OSFM is one that is calculated to load the bases in favour of enabling them to switch to ODbL eventually. They do not intend to ask the whole community to vote on whether there should be a switch.

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Simon Ward wrote: I see two problems in the threads so far: * The dissenters keep repeating themselves, with the same arguments already discussed to death This doesn’t help with: * The dissenters have some real issues that people keep ignoring or

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: I think we can easily accept loosing a handful of poisonous people because all others will spend less time dealing with them and be more productive. sure some will continue but then it's definitely time to think about blocking them. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Patrick Kilian wrote: But there has been the claim CC-BY-SA works perfectly well. If it actually works has to be tested in court. But there are enough lawyers that have told us it might very well break that the perfectly part of the statement is definitely false. If it

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: One of the tenets mentioned in the video SteveC linked to was to not fuel the fire by responding to poisonous posts on mailing lists. As we discuss what to do about this sort of distraction, we should keep in mind that the whole community bears the

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Maybe a line saying mailing list posts should follow the topic of the list Fine Talk= talk and when you get plenty you are upset? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] The story of one ticket.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: To begin, I'll actually part of story: Вefore 2009/10/2, I traveled with this problem on different mailing lists, apparently I was wrong and should immediately write to the DWG... We need clear instructions on this in the proposed Code of

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: John and Liz in Australia say that CC-BY(-SA) works for geodata in Australia, meaning that facts can be copyrighted. Several Australian judges seem to think otherwise but let's assume it were so. Misquote John has pointed out twice that one legal

Re: [OSM-talk] We should recruit these ladies...

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Mike N. wrote: to become OSM mappers! http://www.greenvilleopenmap.info/Mappers00.jpg (Saw that in a magazine ad) not a joke at all http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

registered some domain names, intended for regional use, and will choose and register some more if I determine there is support which extends past our region. Liz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest originality to a collection of facts then it become eligible for copyright. Can you give examples of

Re: [talk-au] Dislike the new wiki skin?

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Grant Slater wrote: PS: Being from the Southern Hemisphere, when is someone going to make a correct side up OSM map? With the new southern hemisphere fork, except i need to keep all of Brazil in, so the northern boundary may be rubbery

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: I'll completely replace it with the PD PGS shoreline if anyone ever again says we cannot do X because of the imported Australian shoreline. The PGS shoreline has been removed because it isn't as accurate as the imported one.

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Therefore OSMF need not treat the two groups separately as long as it does not exert the future licence change option for the 30,000 'CT 1.0' signups. For OSMF not to treat them separately it cannot exert a future licence change option at all

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't see any reason for an outcry other than this might make the coastline less precise for a while. Chances are it is going to be fixed very quickly in areas with Yahoo imagery, and might retain some of the typical blockiness of the PGS import in

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Cartinus wrote: It doesn't take as many manhours to map a desert as it takes to map downtown Melbourne. Cartinus Please don't come up with this sort of nonsense Imports have increased our number of contributors, not decreased them. I have mapped, with my partner, a VERY

Re: [talk-au] NSW Parish Maps

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've collated a list of URLs of all the mrsid files (and an index) they offer if anyone wanted to mass download them. that would be handy as the site opens into a popup so if you have popup windows blocked (like me) you get a blank page

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, 80n quoted: I have been leading a team of digitizers tracing features from aerial images. I was doing everything I could to minimize the creative or artistic part of their work. Actually, a quite heavy system of internal and external quality control was there just

Re: [OSM-talk] Languages, OSM, scripts and all that.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Paul Houle wrote: Cultural imperialist or not, my suspicion that that the roman alphabet is (at least somewhat) understood by educated people who use non-roman alphabets regularly (this is definitely the case in the CJK area.) On the other hand, my guess is that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Richard Weait wrote: How do you find your fictional September first deadline reasonable? I consider it a political deadline. Since 80n has mooted this deadline some time ago, and only now you consider it, of course you think it is quite short.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Prolific editors don't tend to restrict their activity to a single location. This might be more widespread than anticipated. Prolific editors also tend not to leave the project in a huff. No, they continue to make noise before they do.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Liz, Since 80n has mooted this deadline some time ago, and only now you consider it, of course you think it is quite short. 80n first mentioned this deadline on 14th July, i.e. at the time that was six weeks. It was unclear to me what exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Liz wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Dear all, we've had the changeset feature for quite a while now and I believe it is very helpful in a number of ways. I thought I'd have a look at the documentation provided for the documentation called

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: You spend an hour doing edits, then cannot be bothered to spend a minute to think of a good changeset comment. so how do *you* summarise adding POIs and side streets and putting in maxspeed along a hundred km of highway? because i just put in the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Cartinus wrote: And nobody puts all Key: and Tag: pages in his wiki watchlist. Use one of the feeds (eg RSS) and it is easy. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Ed Avis wrote: Another way to look at it is that it's your own time you are saving. If another mapper has a question about your changes and they have to contact you and you need to reply, that uses a lot more time than a quick explanation attached to the change when it was

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Ed Avis wrote: Liz edodd at billiau.net writes: so how do *you* summarise adding POIs and side streets and putting in maxspeed along a hundred km of highway? because i just put in the name of where i have been, that's all. I'd also mention how I found the data

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Ross Scanlon wrote: Filter[emergency] = 'police_station'/Filter What does a police station have to do with emergencies? Are you going to tag the UN headquarters next because they run international disaster relief? Bye Frederik Well

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Dear all, we've had the changeset feature for quite a while now and I believe it is very helpful in a number of ways. I thought I'd have a look at the documentation provided for the documentation called changeset comment The documentation I

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: Well unless recreation includes purchasing showbags and eating fairy floss :) What about the rides? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] What makes a good change set comment?

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Richard Weait wrote: What goes in to a good change set comment? Should it include the nature of your edits, the sources used, edit theme, and location? What else? The question is good, but from a mapper point of view I don't want to put in masses of information. I want

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Adam Killian wrote: But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow... Could we please not talk about the girl anymore? This is the kind of behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and geekery in general. thanks Adam

Re: [talk-au] Direction of flow, rivers and streams

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: In some cases it is pretty difficult to determine which way streams flow as pointed out by Liz and in these instances it may be worth putting a fixme=direction tag onto the stream. If the flow is in either direction, depending on rainfall, fixme

Re: [talk-au] SES Station

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: Does anyone have a suitable picture of a SES station so it can be used on the wiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency probably do. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Sydney-Canberra trip

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: I can check Yass on Friday, as the Department of Health and Ageing is paying me to drive that way again. Thanks Liz, that'd be great. I'll bet a virtual $5.00 that there will still be no signposts but maybe you can find some corroborating evidence

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

for some areas of the planet. How much data loss will they accept on their own sector of the planet? Liz ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Richard Weait wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010, Kai Krueger wrote: So far the the impressions I got from the members of the licensing group vary from anywhere between e.g. 10% data loss is acceptable to as high

Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: I don't think this kind of thing is Aussie specific and it would be better off being on it's own web page and/or going through the tagging list... I have no idea about similar systems in other countries We could ask?

Re: [talk-au] Mapping a blank spot

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote: And it'll show all the ways that were last edited by that user (yourself in this case). Note that this is a half truth, it doesn't show all the work that's been done. It would be a half truth because some person well known to list readers

Re: [talk-au] Sydney-Canberra trip

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: The only places I've seen signs vandalised are usually in residential locations, Hoylen and myself spotted one the other day during the mapping party... Because our Council uses surnames of people to name the roads, others with the same surname steal

Re: [talk-au] Mapping a blank spot

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Richard Weait wrote: Dear Liz, You said in a recent post to a list that you had mapped what was once a blank spot on the map. Have you seen the OSM History animations from GeoFabrik? http://www.geofabrik.de/gallery/history/index.html If the area that you mapped

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Simon Ward wrote: To my knowledge the contract isn’t automatically transferred, although it occurs to me that it could be a condition of the licence that the contract is also adhered to. I’m not sure this is the case. A good example is shrink-wrap licences which are

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: Sorry, but as far as I remember CT suddenly appeared on the table. Before that there was just ODBL. SteveC has already told me that either my memory was faulty or I wasn't paying attention for stating exactly that. Couldn't be bothered to look

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, SteveC wrote: From my experience off list with all the people frustrated both in email and in person, those 20 or so people here just don't represent everyone else who'd prefer all this discussion to go to legal-talk and just move on with the license. quash all

Re: [talk-au] Sydney-Canberra trip

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: Streets without names are highlighted in red. I only see about 3 for Yass, and 1 in Gundaroo. Thanks Steve. The last 3 or 4 times I've checked Yass, those 3 have had no street signs and there were no other indications of what name they were. Still

Re: [talk-au] Sydney-Canberra trip

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: I can check Yass on Friday, as the Department of Health and Ageing is paying me to drive that way again. Thanks Liz, that'd be great. I'll bet a virtual $5.00 that there will still be no signposts but maybe you can find some corroborating evidence

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Did imports and Nearmap tracing in Australia start before the relicensing effort, or were you simply not aware of it, or did you not take it seriously? We started imports a while ago, with the first I recall in 2007. In 2007 I was not aware of an

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Grant Slater wrote: I used a PD data sets for creating the OSM coastline of Africa. It took me 3 months in 2006. I imagine if for example the much quoted CC-BY coastline of Australia was removed tomorrow it could be rebuilt within a week from new data with community

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Simon Ward wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:07:19AM +1000, Liz wrote: - There is no tool yet to see the impact of the relicensing to the data. But this is the key need for those who are rather interested in the data than the legalese. Please develop the tool first

Re: [OSM-talk] fact-based vote?

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the old data will remain available under the old license. If you take somewhere between one third and one quarter of the data for a well defined area and lock it up from further edits on OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Murray River Shared nodes between non-routable objects?

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote: Have a look at the Murray River, the correct state boundary is the southern bank but someone has changed parts of the river to be the admin boundary so when the map is drawn from the data the river appears in the wrong place. The same happens with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Rob Myers wrote: BY-SA does not protect the freedom to use OSM data in Australia. Trying to continue pretending that it does doesn't serve the interests of Australians. a complete untruth I see that you are based in UK so I'm not sure how you obtained such advice.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Rob Myers wrote: Has anyone asked the Australian or New Zealand governments how scared they would be of ODbL? This statement indicates your complete failure to understand political process. I'm not young, I'm white haired actually, and glib remarks like this don't

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

Forwarded from talk because it might miss someone not on both lists -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive? Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010, 01:13:36 From: Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de To:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Rob Myers wrote: Science Commons seem to think copyright doesn't apply to databases, In the US. OKFN seem to think it might. After a recent High Court decision, in Australia copyright is not applicable to databases. Maps were not included in the Court decision,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Rob Myers wrote: Given this, the facts are still that a majority voted and a clear majority of the votes were in favour. False A majority of *contributors* have not voted, not even a majority of contributors who edited anything in the last year. Offering a vote to those

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sam Larsen wrote: I feel imho that the LWG do represent the vast majority of mappers, care about the project, care about all the hard work that we all have put into this, have noted all the concerns that have been raised and will not make a decision that will cause too

[OSM-talk] Question on filtering data

I would like to filter OSM data in a large area which is about 600km square and find what has been surveyed by a particular mapper. If data has been added to this later eg a maxspeed tag by another mapper, I do not want this data excluded. I accept that this may involve a series of searches.

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