Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

requirement. You can be fined if you drive a 2WD vehicle on a track signposted 4WD only. It's not a suggestion or guideline. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C

Re: [talk-au] Anything remapping an armchair mapper can help with in Australia?

to the license they were contributed under, CC-BY-SA. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Plea to Australian decliners

we enjoy... Mapping and building the bloody best map (data) of the world. It won't be as good as it can be if you continue to reject contributions, drive people away from the project and fracture the community. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Mass revert now??

of self-immolation. Is it selfish of Google or Nearmap to not allow use of their data under the ODbL and CTs? -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Mass revert now??

(or rather, persisting vainly with the idea that maybe it will change), and refusing to accept the CTs amounts to blackmail at this point. I think you've got the blackmail finger pointed in the wrong direction. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

and the tagging guidelines don't address it either. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Removing ABS data

Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: All good points, Nick. Thanks. Except for the childish dark side comments. Nick, please accept that people have their reasons for declining the CTs, just as you presumably have your reasons for accepting. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au

Re: [talk-au] Residential Roads

km/h area signs around the place to cover all roads within that area. Not sure about other states that I rarely visit. In any case, you're right that it's hard to know without some local presence. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

them publically available? That should put the matter to rest one way or another. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The answer from AGIMO (data.gov.au) will actually be irrelevant. I was hoping that the original communications would make clear exactly how relevant they are. At the moment we're all just guessing. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Next trip will be in a week, but it will be my daughter's birthday and I don't know if I'll have time. Update on Cowra mapping: I went to a birthday party, I flew a kite, I built a fence, I fed some cows, I drove a semi-trailer, but I did not collect street

Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

. I am unaware of the sources used for mapping Cowra. If I collect all the street names I'll also have GPS traces to match. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Bing

done right, a functioning do-ocracy and most importantly a transparent, democratic decision-making process, you don't need to look any further than Debian. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

an assumption of good faith. In fact, it's the opposite. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

responding to. You simply dismiss anybody who disagrees with you as a troll without consideration. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

. Please do so. Your communication skills in this medium are atrocious, maybe in person you're not such an arse. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

understand the depths of recalcitrance when it comes to the Australian government. Having data released under CC licences at all was a huge leap, there's effectively zero chance of OSM being able to licence the data under ODbL. The federal and state governments just don't care. -- Sam Couter

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

different given our differing opinions. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

that don't exist in Australia or even in the majority of the world? -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

real loss. [Sam:] I hate to sound like a third-grader, but you started the ad hominem. I did, where? The first message I replied to. Accusing others of hidden agendas or riling you up for no reason other than enjoyment. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint

Re: [talk-au] What A Day

cannot seem to be able to get any joy from fosm.org, at the moment I am just getting a 500 Internal Server Error message. Me too. Previous efforts were more successful (no error messages), but I've never seen a map, just a blank grey box where a map probably goes. -- Sam Couter

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

debate since the start. Are you seriously going to claim ignorance on this? -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

be deleted. I don't think anything has been imported for a while because of that. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

. It was specifically dismissive of people with agendas which has become a commonly used passive-aggressive label (especially on this list) for those who voice concerns. So I don't think I inferred much at all, I think instead you were quite explicit. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

viewpoints from you is a glaring failure for a man who's supposed to be a leader in an open community. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] A modest proposal fo OSM mailing list reform

a delete button for stuff I don't want to see. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] temp name change

Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, am I the only normal person on this email list? Depends what you mean by normal. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend... Could you perhaps take a photo of it instead? /camera snob -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

them into the right location, referenced from the navit.xml file you edited earlier. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

than any laptop or netbook. It would be fine on any laptop. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] More General Observations

like to say roads in Tasmania are AWESOME. The roads in South Gippsland on the way there and back... not so good for motorbikes, especially around Sale. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc

Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions

-school maths. You'll need a theodolite or sextant or similar if you want to be anywhere near accurate. A few degrees of error isn't perceivable on a compass but will create a large error in placement. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

a surveyor so I've played chainman plenty of times too. These days it's less about the chain and more about carrying the prism to the benchmark and to each spot. You don't expect the surveyor to do the walking, do you? -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

. Back in the days when it contained methanol people still drank it which did even more damage. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

Bridge in Manly used to do the same thing. Sydney Harbour Bridge also changes the number of lanes used in each direction based on traffic flow. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description

Re: [talk-au] Mapping interchanges levels or turn restrictions

=-33.82794,151.2008spn=0.005036,0.009645z=17 Left turn from Falcon Street onto Pacifiy Highway. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Incorrect entry to BP service station

correct. Trying to drive or route to disconnected nodes is nonsensical. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Portrush Road, Adelaide

and simulated speeds showing. Navit can do the same thing using the demo vehicle. It follows the current route at a constant speed. It's a little buggy and crashes occasionally but it mostly works. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. My sister-in-law lives near here. The directions on my eTrext Legend did confuse me a little at that intersection. I assumed the intersection hadn't been drawn quite right, but I never got around to going back and fixing it. I fixed this one. -- Sam

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

that what we are mapping is impossible zero-width line roads. Also, if you're driving tangetially to the roundabout and the circle of the roundabout has been simplified to straight lines, it's not hard to arrange one of the straight lines from the circle to coincide with your tangent. -- Sam

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

it should be noted for those of us who'd rather push the car than put E10 in it. Also some servos have pre-mixed two-stroke fuel, kerosene or firewood available, just in case you drive a ride-on mower or a wood-fired traction engine with satnav. Or maybe that's going a little too far. -- Sam Couter

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

are solar and nuclear. Solar's expensive and nuclear scares the NIMBYs even though it releases less radioactive waste than burning coal. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

, but a near-incoherant rant is good fun sometimes. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things

Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: a fence and medium strip dividing the two. That's median, meaning in the middle. Not medium, which means average. Pet peeve. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C

Re: [talk-au] When does a road become a track?

. However commenting on what crazy people do on unsurfaced road is less subjective, you just assume the worst :) They roads I'm willing to drive on, we probably come to the same answer anyway. I am a crazy person who drives fast on rough roads. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] When does a road become a track?

if the road is between adjoining properties, a public right of way through the middle of private property, or a road through a State Forest or National Park. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc

Re: [talk-au] When does a road become a track?

. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] ?WinCE program

someone will have already done it and there will be instructions. You're probably not going to be able to get any of these things working though. Most of the time messing with these dinky embedded systems takes a good deal of knowledge and often an oscilliscope and/or soldering iron. -- Sam Couter

Re: [talk-au] navit files

when more matches should be returned and what those matches should be. Returning too many matches will greatly increase the size of the Navit map file, which is obviously undesirable. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89

Re: [talk-au] navit files

right. They're routable roads anyway, I don't know how admin boundaries affect Navit. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] navit files

no claims of familiarity. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] new toy found by son

, it just helps with faster satellite aquisition by downloading ephemeris data instead of searching blindly for visible satellites. It won't help with surveying a tunnel. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C

Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM

Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity WTF is a baby hatch?! Is it like a laundry chute, where babies go when they're dirty and you're finished with them? I'd like one of them thanks. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B

Re: [talk-au] New POI mapping application

? -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Navteq mapping AU

. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=662

numbers come from?). Depending on which green is which, that map may actually be correct when it comes to mailing list posts. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I understand but will never accept the opposing position as I use a mail client that does handle reply-to-list correctly and have no sympathy for people who choose to use poor quality software when better alternatives exist. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s

Re: [talk-au] navit

for osm2navit (attached) is a bit heavy-handed but trivial. If you've got a build environment set up for navit, give it a go. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C Index: navit/osm2navit.c

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

for your best students. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Your problem John, is that you are confusing educating people with providing them with a School Certificate or whatever I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] Street Abbv. patch for validator plugin

: regexes are hard to write right and even harder to read. I believe the \.? expression is more efficient than (|.), and I also think it's easier to read. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc

Re: [talk-au] Canberra Mapping Party Event Diary

. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

, not tarballs. But that's an unimportant detail, especially since you don't really want to be running jar or javac manually in most cases. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

into ~/.josm/plugins and restart JOSM. It shouldn't be any more difficult than that. It can probably be built with ant outside Eclipse too if you want. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description

Re: [talk-au] Junctions (to name or not to name)

%3Dmotorway_link A collection of unnamed links that confuse drivers when routing software doesn't know where to direct them, and for free, one unnamed roundabout: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.32041lon=149.06245zoom=17layers=B000FTF -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au

Re: [talk-au] Running stats against GPX files ...

that for copyright purposes, all the data etc that is uploaded is to be kept forever. Lot of redundant stuff there. It's true that XML is very verbose. However all that verbosity compresses extremely well, so it's not really a significant problem. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] Rivers

to really get the most out of the device. He, like most people, would also want it to be a mobile phone. But for those that don't mind fiddling or enjoy playing with gadgets, it's awesome and very capable. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries - getting close

. I'd be happy enough to try to modify the software to not require is_in but I haven't seen a better solution. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

of your argument before. Tagging the roundabout in some way is very important to preserve meaning, not just appearance. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Wild guess surveying

80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: A straight line between two places is better than no line. A straight line is at least topograhically correct, which for road navigation is incredibly useful. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

nearly always best to keep as much meaning as possible in source data. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Mapping bushwalks

low return to chase down. What I like best is that OSM can be both of these things without compromising on either. -- Sam Couter | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Gosmore vs Radomir

of reply. -- Sam Couter | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] FW: should we migrate to osm forum

Luke Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ wall of text and other stuff deleted ] Luke, you're doing a good job of demonstrating the main argument against mailing lists: Poor mail clients. You need to choose a better one. -- Sam Couter | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B