Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is ok to do it this also with other data users who refuse to attribute OSM properly? This mail finally mobilised me to complain  to Mapbox about their practise of putting large Mapbox logo and hiding any mention  of OpenStreetMap behind click to view button. But I am planning next action(s)

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 27. Dec 2018, at 14:04, Simon Poole wrote: >> Am 26.12.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> >> It seems more straightforward to fix this upstream rather than asking a >> myriad of downstream users to patch it. As it is with one of our most >> prominent users,

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 26.12.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > It seems more straightforward to fix this upstream rather than asking a > myriad of downstream users to patch it. As it is with one of our most > prominent users, maybe this specific issue should be discussed on the board? > This is not the

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Dec 2018, at 22:55, Simon Poole wrote: > > But just as clear we (as in the LWG) do not engage actively in > enforcement except when community level activities do not lead to the > required result (obviously anything else would not scale). Please feel > free to

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-22 Thread Simon Poole
On 22.12.2018 12:44, Christoph Hormann wrote: > .. > Yes, but second rate attribution is such a clear cut case that it could > and should be covered. .. I'm not quite sure what your point is, we've made it clear in the past that click to show attribution is not acceptable outside of a

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 22 December 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > But even with new material it needs to be clear that the purpose of > the guidelines is to outline "safe" ways to provide appropriate > attribution and not to be an exhaustive list of all ways to so so. Yes, but second rate attribution is such

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-22 Thread Simon Poole
Just to explain what we are planning: the current attribution guidance on the OSMF website and on openstreetmap.org mostly goes back to before 2012 and there have only been some tweaks to the texts since them. This on the one hand makes it difficult to find statements that we have made on aspects

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-20 Thread Naveen Francis
Some discussion are happening in OSM Asia telegram group @OpenStreetMapAsia On Thu 20 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Imre Samu > Techcrunch: "Grab is messing up the world’s largest mapping community’s > data in Southeast Asia > Remote teams incorrectly overwrote data developed by volunteer mappers in >

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-20 Thread Imre Samu
Techcrunch: "Grab is messing up the world’s largest mapping community’s data in Southeast Asia Remote teams incorrectly overwrote data developed by volunteer mappers in Thailand" https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/19/grab-maps-osm-thailand-southeast-asia/ Hacker News:

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 19 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > bist Du nicht im advisory board? Hast Du mind 1 Eur bezahlt? > Kommt mir unwahrscheinlich vor ;-) Oder bringe ich da was > durcheinander? I am on the AB because the FOSSGIS sent me there (and neither i not the FOSSGIS paid

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 19. Dez. 2018 um 11:28 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole : > Please get your quotes correct. mea culpa, they must have changed something in the UI :o ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Simon Poole
Please get your quotes correct. On 19.12.2018 10:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Hallo Christoph, > > bist Du nicht im advisory board? Hast Du mind 1 Eur bezahlt? Kommt mir > unwahrscheinlich vor ;-) > Oder bringe ich da was durcheinander? > > Gruß, Martin > > sent from a phone > >> On

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Hallo Christoph, bist Du nicht im advisory board? Hast Du mind 1 Eur bezahlt? Kommt mir unwahrscheinlich vor ;-) Oder bringe ich da was durcheinander? Gruß, Martin sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2018, at 10:42, Simon Poole wrote: > > A seat on the advisory board requires at least a

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Simon Poole
The LWG has added a work item for 2019 to update the guidance on attribution. The major part of the existing texts were written in the ramp up to the licence change in 2012 and are now over 6 years old.  Lots of things have changed massively since then, be it the scope of OSM usage, to what kind

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 19.12.2018 09:33, Ervin Malicdem wrote: > I just hoped before they were given a seat as part of OSMF's ADVISORY > board, these issues had been handled. 500 euros seems to clear all that > history so soon. A seat on the advisory board requires at least a "gold" level membership which costs

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Thread Ervin Malicdem
They have been known NOT to attribute OSM since over 4 years back. [1] Unfortunately, our community leaders back then is more assertive in other ways than those who potentially violate the attribution guidelines. They were notified but instead of replying back for a resolution, they ceased using

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-18 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, Mishari Muqbil wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Good news overall for the project I suppose, Grab (SE Asia's Uber) is using data from OSM to do fare calculations as well as display route previews in their app, making it a high profile use case for OSM Data. Now if only