Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: That would mean that Mapnik needs to be checking a secondary field to determine what to display. If the renderer doesn't do that, you will end up with a map that is poorer in the end. In your case, that would mean

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/9/30 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com: snip +1 I fail to see any disadvantages of using landuse=farm + farm=orchard (or something similar). Waisting a few bits in a database is simply not a problem. If you pre-process the information, eg osm2pgsql drops the type of farm use into the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote: If using farm as a base tag (or forest), you will make sure that thos not interested in the details, still can use the data. To me that is a very clear advantage. You have two choices: Let those interested in detail check

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Claudius
Am 28.09.2009 20:40, Pieren: Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land Cover current import in France corresponding to the class 2.2.2 of this european program (Agricultural areas - Permanent crops - Fruit trees and berry plantations). I would like to push

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/29 Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de: Am 28.09.2009 20:40, Pieren: Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land Cover current import in France corresponding to the class 2.2.2 of this european program (Agricultural areas -  Permanent crops -  Fruit trees and berry

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/29 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: While some farmers may rotate their land, partially with Orchards this is not as likely as with grassland and ploughed Fields +1 I'd also like to see differentiation of conventional orchards and meadow orchards (de:Streuobstwiese). See Wikipedia:en for

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/29 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: I'd also like to see differentiation of conventional orchards and meadow orchards (de:Streuobstwiese). See Wikipedia:en for details in English. Please add your comments

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: I'd rather like to see this merged into some more generic landuse=agricultural tagging-scheme. Which would cover general farmland (currently tagged as landuse=farmland) as well. Any farmer within the OSM crowd that could

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Harris
[mailto:pchi...@bcs.org] Sent: 29 September 2009 11:24 Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard 2009/9/29 Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de: Am 28.09.2009 20:40, Pieren: Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread John Smith
2009/9/29 Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com: Landuse=agricultural vs. Landuse=grassland And for the former: Agriculture=arable / pastoral / orchard / plantation This seems saner, that way if you aren't sure of the land use due to time of year the aerial imagery was take or what not you can

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/9/29 Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de No, I rather meant landuse=agricultural + agricultural=orchard/field/crop/salt and thus keeping the information but in the same time grouping agricultural landuses under one tag. That would mean that Mapnik needs to be checking a secondary

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread John Smith
2009/9/29 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: That would mean that Mapnik needs to be checking a secondary field to determine what to display. If the renderer doesn't do that, you will end up with a map that is poorer in the end. In your case, that would mean increasing the size of the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/29 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/29 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: I'd also like to see differentiation of conventional orchards and meadow orchards (de:Streuobstwiese). See Wikipedia:en for details

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Lennard
Emilie Laffray wrote: That would mean that Mapnik needs to be checking a secondary field to determine what to display. If the renderer doesn't do that, you will end up with a map that is poorer in the end. In your case, that would mean That's not really so different as highway + access, or

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-28 Thread Pieren
Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land Cover current import in France corresponding to the class 2.2.2 of this european program (Agricultural areas - Permanent crops - Fruit trees and berry plantations). I would like to push this for improvements and a proper