Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to correct
any misimpression.
The title is now OpenStreetMap wants to be the Wikipedia of Maps and the
body of the article now clearly distinguishes between CloudMade and us.
80n
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm
... never-the-less we should start tagging lamp-posts so we can easily
find somewhere to hang those filthy cloudmade running dogs.
;-)
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to correct
any misimpression.
Hi,
2009/3/11 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the following article:
http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/10/startup-cloudmade-wants-to-be-the-wikipedia-of-maps/
The article says that Cloudmade relies on its OpenStreetMap project, and:
And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they send
their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well. I've seen
perfectly good and factual articles become very inaccurate as the
editors try and make it fit in half the space with bit of cut and
paste. You'd think these days the
Stephen Hope wrote:
And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they
send their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well.
If I may speak up for editors, a lot of journalists could avoid this
unfortunate necessity by Actually Learning To Write.
cheers
Richard
Frederik Ramm wrote:
I, too, am an active member of the OSM community and entitled to
voice my opinion in this capacity.
Since when is OSM a platform for voicing opinions? Is it suddenly
a democracy? We're here to make maps. You have to explain how
your rants help the project. The
This is coming from me as a long-term OSM contributer and CloudMade founder.
First, its great that the overall tone of this thread is positive. It
sounds like lots of people have experienced journalists misinterpreting
things. In fact, the problem isn't journalists - I explain OSM, and
Lars Aronsson wrote:
You have to explain how your rants help the project.
The impression I get is that you cause division rather than unity.
On a point of order, getting all meta on a flamewar like this is the most
surefire way to prolong it.
cheers
Richard
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:
You have to explain how your rants help the project. The impression
I get is that you cause division rather than unity. Is that your goal?
That seems destructive and irrational. If you want the public to
understand the
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
also the founder of the project and thus has to juggle various roles.
Please then accept that besides running Geofabrik, I, too, am an
active member of the OSM community and
On 11 Mar 2009, at 12:26, Ben Laenen wrote:
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
also the founder of the project and thus has to juggle various roles.
Please then accept that besides running Geofabrik, I, too,
According to the style rules of the Italian press, interviewers have a certain
margin to summarize in a striking short sentence the words of the person who is
interviewed, and put that sentence in the headline between double quotes. So if
Steve Coast is one day interviewed by an Italian
Hi!
Peter Miller schrieb:
There have been reasons for concern, many of which have been raised in
the past on this list and on legal-talk in the past and we don't need
to raise them again. I really hope that we will all be able to learn
from them and avoid the understandable wariness
Hi,
as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the following article:
http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/10/startup-cloudmade-wants-to-be-the-wikipedia-of-maps/
The article says that Cloudmade relies on its OpenStreetMap project, and:
“This is going to be the map of the future,” says
As a lurking OSM community member who has read many many tech articles
that are factually wrong through no fault of the company and who has
stood next to Steve Coast a number of times as he explained what
CloudMade does, I feel the need to opine that this article is a
reasonable balance of fact
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I know that the press always write what they want (or what they think
they understand) and not necessarily what you tell them.
However, this is not the first time that the OpenStreetMap project has
been confused with
another fantastic
1. Someone makes a mistake
2. ???
3. It's Steves fault
Bet you were itching to make todays Guardian mistake my fault too, eh?
I can tell you Frederik that I and the rest of us at CloudMade take
great pains to explain the differences between CM and OSM
Frederik Ramm wrote:
as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the
following article:
That article can indeed generate some unfortunate
misinterpretations, but as you admit, it's hard to control what
journalists write about you. Still, your first instinct is to
attack Steve
Lars,
Lars Aronsson wrote:
If you asked the same journalist to interview you about Geofabrik,
that would have a much better effect for the public understanding
of OpenStreetMap's role than your current rants.
It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
also the
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