Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-27 Thread Igor Brejc
David Earl wrote: In principle it ought to be possible to determine the country an object is in, even though it is quite hard at present. I think a lot of things would benefit from this ability: nationally-styled rendering rules, deciding which way roundabouts go, name renderings,

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/07/2008 11:00, Igor Brejc wrote: David Earl wrote: In principle it ought to be possible to determine the country an object is in, even though it is quite hard at present. I think a lot of things would benefit from this ability: nationally-styled rendering rules, deciding which way

[OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
in the italian mailing list we are facing new (and some old) users arguing should be better to enter in the name tag the collapsed form of the name. I'm trying to persuade this people this is the wrong way 'cause don't exist any way to explode names collapsed. I'm proposing to add 2 extension

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/07/2008 10:56, Edoardo Marascalchi wrote: in the italian mailing list we are facing new (and some old) users arguing should be better to enter in the name tag the collapsed form of the name. I'm trying to persuade this people this is the wrong way 'cause don't exist any way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
EdoM, I'm proposing to add 2 extension to the name tag to mark which part of the name could be collapsed or hidden in the same moment you could give a priority Your idea of referecing parts of the name tag with numbers is error- prone because (a) people will not always agree on how names are

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread 80n
Perhaps this would work: name=Viale don Luigi Sturzo short_name=V.le don Luigi Sturzo very_short_name=V.le L. Sturzo If short_name and very_short_name are present then use them, otherwise the renderers can use whatever automated algorithm they like. This would handle with all the corner cases

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/07/2008 11:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: In my eyes it would be a great idea to develop some not-too-complex XML document where such rules can be formalized. We could then have our renderers read that document and use it, and host it on the Wiki so everyone can put in their collapsation

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Frederik Ramm wrote: If you want to have shortened names in the database, then I would put them in there explicitly, like so: name=Viale don Luigi Sturzo name_short_1=V.le don Luigi Storzo name_short_2=V.le Luigi Sturzo name_short_3=V.le L.Sturzo But generally I believe the renderer

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/07/2008 22:11, Martin Hoffmann wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: If you want to have shortened names in the database, then I would put them in there explicitly, like so: name=Viale don Luigi Sturzo name_short_1=V.le don Luigi Storzo name_short_2=V.le Luigi Sturzo name_short_3=V.le

Re: [OSM-talk] Collapsed names

2008-07-25 Thread Martin Hoffmann
David Earl wrote: There's two separate cases (1) recognizing that variations are equivalent so that searching works. I think I've demonstrated that that can work pretty well, without needing to know the language - because 9a) it doesn't matter if you get the odd extra hit on occasion,