Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The tag oneway=true is extinct in the database. Without defending the author of the Craigslist stylesheet: tracking OSM data changes is hard. In part due to the negative attitude towards cleanup mechanical edits, the data is all over the place. 1, -1, reverse, true, false, no, yes, maybe.

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
just a few thoughts: What is the value of a 1 time mechanical edit cleanup ? From the moment you ran your script, new data can arrive in the OSM with the wrong values. Will you run your script daily ? What if a data consumer obtains the data between 2 runs of your script ? Wouldn't it be better

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-01 9:55 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Part of that work could be (or is) done by the validators in the editors. +1 If you look at the actual values for oneway, very few are obviously mistagged, e.g. oneway=yes;no (32) and no;yes (111) - these result very likely from

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: just a few thoughts: What is the value of a 1 time mechanical edit cleanup ? From the moment you ran your script, new data can arrive in the OSM with the wrong values. Will you run your script daily ? What if a data

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, I noticed this about the Craigslist rendering a while ago. In my case it was ways tagged as oneway=-1. Since the ways were not members of any relations and there was no other reason for them to be tagged this way, I reversed the way directions and changed the tag to oneway=yes but obviously

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread John Eldredge
Yes, I would class this as a rendering error on Craigslist's part, not a data error on OSM's part. It sounds like the code is checking for the presence of the oneway tag, where it should be checking for the presence of oneway=yes. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Warin
On 1/06/2015 6:42 AM, John Eldredge wrote: Yes, I would class this as a rendering error on Craigslist's part, not a data error on OSM's part. It sounds like the code is checking for the presence of the oneway tag, where it should be checking for the presence of oneway=yes. Or oneway=1,

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Andrew Hain
Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com writes: Or oneway=1, -1 reverse, true, reversible The tag oneway=true is extinct in the database. -- Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
After a long stretch of oneway=yes, I might indeed tag oneway=no just to keep someone from assuming I'd made a mistake. oneway=no is a declaration, as opposed to a lack of information. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 07:56 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: I've seen this topic being discussed here or elsewhere in the past. I thought that the consensus was that in some area's (a Spanish town I believe), it was ok to leave the oneway=no. The reasoning was that most streets in that town were

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Lester Caine
Forgot reply to list :( On 31/05/15 01:51, Mike Thompson wrote: Why care? I would imagine to the majority of the users make no distinction between OpenStreetMap and Craigslist's rendering of OpenStreetMap, if the map is wrong, to them that simply means that OpenStreetMap is wrong. There are

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Andrew Hain
Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com writes: The issue is that some streets that are not one way in OSM data, are rendered as one way by Craigslist. If you go to this ad and zoom in on the map you will see the arrows designating one way streets, for example on Cliffrose Way

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 31/05/15 12:24, Andrew Hain wrote: Does Craigslist also get oneway=-1 (traffic opposite to the direction of the way) wrong? And oneway:cycle=no and the like ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic

[OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-30 Thread Mike Thompson
I have posted this issue to the Craigslist feedback forum, but I also thought I would post it here to see if anyone has a specific contact at Cragislist that handles their map rendering. They use - and credit - OpenStreetMap (which is wonderful), but I believe they perform their own custom

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-30 Thread Warin
On 31/05/2015 10:51 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: I have posted this issue to the Craigslist feedback forum, but I also thought I would post it here to see if anyone has a specific contact at Cragislist that handles their map rendering. They use - and credit - OpenStreetMap (which is wonderful),

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Gemis
I've seen this topic being discussed here or elsewhere in the past. I thought that the consensus was that in some area's (a Spanish town I believe), it was ok to leave the oneway=no. The reasoning was that most streets in that town were oneway=yes, and the oneway=no was used to indicate that this