Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-02-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 30, 2008 1:47 PM, Artem Pavlenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good p(o)int! This thread is going for quite a while and still no new pint icon :D This one I created myself a year ago : http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/ osm/?zoom=15lat=6715066.22314lon=-7023.28957layers=B00 Is it better ? or

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-31 Thread Gervase Markham
Dave Stubbs wrote: Because it's nice to have some output? All I was saying was that if we want more it needs paying for. Be that OSMF, someone else, user pays, advertising pays whatever. It was a serious question btw, how much would they be willing to pay for it? I haven't spoken to them;

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Gervase Markham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asking them to install and configure their own copy of Mapnik seems somewhat unreasonable... You could try osmps, and then convert the PostScript to the required format. Mapnik was just an example; it seems to me that asking people who want to make and use a

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Vidner
On Jan 29, 2008 10:21 PM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.45561lon=-0.96828zoom=16layers=B0FT I find that the area they would screenshot is covered with crudely-drawn pint glasses.[0] They can use the osmarender flavor instead. In this case, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Jan 30, 2008 8:42 AM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asking them to install and configure their own copy of Mapnik seems somewhat unreasonable... You could try osmps, and then convert the PostScript to the required format. Mapnik was just an

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/01/2008 08:56, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asking them to install and configure their own copy of Mapnik seems somewhat unreasonable... You could try osmps, and then convert the PostScript

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a bit of positive thinking here! I'm all for positive thinking. I'm also for realistic thinking, and as the person that will be expected to make this work that tends to come to the top of my list. We don't have

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 29 Jan 2008, at 21:21, Gervase Markham wrote: Chaps, As always, forgive me if this is an old issue, but: I noticed that an organisation I have contact with has a map in their how to get here leaflet, which they may well have just copied from somewhere. I'd like to recommend they use an

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 30 Jan 2008, at 10:25, bvh wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:56:13AM +, Tom Hughes wrote: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle of rendering them? No, we should provide

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Anther solution would be on-demand mapping: the renderers, in whatever falvour, are online somewhere and you go through a dialogue to decide on an area, choose your features and then get a custom map back a short while later - either on screen or as a PDF or whatever. Sounds a good idea. An

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/01/2008 11:47, Artem Pavlenko wrote: On 30 Jan 2008, at 10:25, bvh wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:56:13AM +, Tom Hughes wrote: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/01/2008 11:07, Tom Hughes wrote: Remember that the primary focus of this project, as I understand it at any rate, is to produce data for other people to use. Making our own maps from our data is more of a convenience for us and a way to promote the project than our primary product.

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Tom Hughes skrev: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle of rendering them? And especially maps without an indication of where to bring a brit, yourself, and your extra liver to

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Nick Whitelegg skrev: Anther solution would be on-demand mapping: the renderers, in whatever falvour, are online somewhere and you go through a dialogue to decide on an area, choose your features and then get a custom map back a short while later - either on screen or as a PDF or whatever.

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 30 Jan 2008, at 13:12, J.D. Schmidt wrote: Tom Hughes skrev: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle of rendering them? And especially maps without an indication of where to

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 30 Jan 2008, at 12:11, bvh wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 12:51:34PM +, Artem Pavlenko wrote: This is why I'm making win32 binaries ( and planning os x pkg) - for ordinary mortals. For more advanced folk : sudo apt-get install mapnik or rpm -ivh etc. All is needed is a bit of

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Tom Hughes wrote: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle of rendering them? I'm not asking for that, either. What I was sort of envisaging was a web service where you scrolled to an

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Martin Vidner wrote: They can use the osmarender flavor instead. In this case, the feature of drawing most icons only at zoom 17 comes out as an advantage. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.45561lon=-0.96828zoom=16layers=0BFT The trouble with that is that the particular area in question has

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread John McKerrell
On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:02, Gervase Markham wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: So it is reasonable or optimal for us to maintain an infinite number of custom maps for third parties that want custom maps but don't want the hassle of rendering them? I'm not asking for that, either. What I was sort of

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Dave Stubbs wrote: So how much do you suppose they'd be willing to pay for this service? If enough people want it, and enough people are willing to pay enough for it, it may at some point in the future appear. The problem is that you need hardware/network resources to offer this kind of

[OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-29 Thread Gervase Markham
Chaps, As always, forgive me if this is an old issue, but: I noticed that an organisation I have contact with has a map in their how to get here leaflet, which they may well have just copied from somewhere. I'd like to recommend they use an OSM map instead, but looking at the area:

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-29 Thread Igor Brejc
Gervase Markham wrote: Chaps, As always, forgive me if this is an old issue, but: I noticed that an organisation I have contact with has a map in their how to get here leaflet, which they may well have just copied from somewhere. I'd like to recommend they use an OSM map instead, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Jan 29, 2008 4:43 PM, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there somewhere a repository of totally free general-purpose icons such as this? I'm asking because I would like to extend Kosmos rendering rules with some nice icons. Try openclipart.org. There's lots of clip art there that might

Re: [OSM-talk] Crudely-drawn pint glasses

2008-01-29 Thread matthew-osm
Hey ho, On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:21:08PM +, Gervase Markham wrote: As always, forgive me if this is an old issue, but: I noticed that an organisation I have contact with has a map in their how to get here leaflet, which they may well have just copied from somewhere. I'd like to