Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-06-06 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
After close to a month... no news.. so... will this happens or not? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me just add one note to John's comments about Maperitive: it already out of the box supports 19 zoom levels, but you can modify the configuration

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-06-06 Thread pavithran
On 6 June 2010 18:33, Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: After close to a month... no news.. so... will this happens or not? I wish it happens . So that I could see( see as in get_rendered_officially) bazaars on the map! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbazaar

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-18 Thread john whelan
not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:15:10 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed? js == John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: js I wonder how

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-18 Thread john whelan
Have a look at Maperitive. Because the processing is done on the local machine it gives you much more control. I've been playing with .bat files, you can run them from a desktop icon, to select some POIs and display them but not others. Being in Canada I also use the technique to switch the

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-18 Thread Igor Brejc
Hi, Let me just add one note to John's comments about Maperitive: it already out of the box supports 19 zoom levels, but you can modify the configuration and set the max zoom to a higher level: http://maperitive.net/docs/manual/Advanced_Configuration.html

[OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Gregory
Now a lot of places are full of pro-mappers, we are doing house numbers, shops, football pitch lines... Do we need an extra zoom level? For example I'm learning to add buildings/shops and see http://osm.org/go/euuOoC_pJ-- You can only see about a third of the shop/business names because of

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:02:53 +0100, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Now a lot of places are full of pro-mappers, we are doing house numbers, shops, football pitch lines... Do we need an extra zoom level? For example I'm learning to add buildings/shops and seeĀ 

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Adding a zoomlevel adds 4 tiles for each tile in the previous zoomlevel. You'll go from 91 billion tiles to 366 billion. This meaning you need 4 times the load to generate, 4 times the storage to hold them, 4 times the

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
Adding a zoomlevel adds 4 tiles for each tile in the previous zoomlevel. You'll go from 91 billion tiles to 366 billion. This meaning you need 4 times the load to generate, 4 times the storage to hold them, 4 times the traffic to display them. Mathematically speaking is true, but maybe is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:32:34 +0200, Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Adding a zoomlevel adds 4 tiles for each tile in the previous zoomlevel. You'll go from 91 billion tiles to 366 billion. This meaning you need 4 times the load to generate, 4 times the storage to hold

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread pavithran
On 17 May 2010 17:32, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Now a lot of places are full of pro-mappers, we are doing house numbers, shops, football pitch lines... Do we need an extra zoom level? YES and I was thinking of posting about it but waited because I want to learn about simple

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Speaking of not enough zoom levels, locations in the more northern and more southern latitudes actually have an extra zoom level. Because of the Mercartor projection, locations near 60 degree latitude (north or south) have twice the linear scale as locations on the equator for the same zoom level.

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 22:31, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be done selectively - only in urban areas? No need for an extra zoom level in the desert... That would at least help with the storage and generation aspects. Most map tile systems setup with mod_tile only generate on

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Eric Marsden
md == Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl writes: md Adding a zoomlevel adds 4 tiles for each tile in the previous zoomlevel. md You'll go from 91 billion tiles to 366 billion. md This meaning you need 4 times the load to generate, 4 times the storage to md hold them, 4 times the traffic to

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Eric Marsden
js == John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: js I wonder how consistent you could get the look and feel between the 2 js systems, otherwise it might cause more confusion than anything. This would require work, yes. But even the Mapnik rendering has discontinuities between zoom

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:15:10 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed? js == John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: js I wonder how consistent you could

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 07:00, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One thing that has frustrated me with the current tiling system is that most POIs are only visible if you zoom in all the way, and can only see an area 50 meters or so across. This rather limits their usefulness. It would

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Gregory
On 17 May 2010 22:00, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One thing that has frustrated me with the current tiling system is that most POIs are only visible if you zoom in all the way, and can only see an area 50 meters or so across. This rather limits their usefulness. It would