Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Clifford Snow
As I read your proposal, it sounds like you have a solution but haven't defined the problem. If you could focus on the problem and describe exactly what is wrong with the current arrangement, and what will happen if we do nothing, that might help. Otherwise I can not see the merits of your

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 21:16, john whelan wrote: > > And different features really are called difference things in different > countries. +1, moreover, the „same“ features are different in different countries and cultures, and it is part of our work to define when we

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2020, at 21:04, pangoSE wrote: > > E.g. permanent unique ids, talk pages if we want that for every osmid, SPARQL > support, standardization benefits "riding the current ride in open data" somehow you can have this already through the integration of wikidata:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
"riding the current ride in open data" - I am confused what is the meaning of that "scripting support for botmakers" - as a bot operator and a bot author I am confused what is supposed to be missing "support for references and linking interactively to other data sources" - we have that, see

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread john whelan
I honestly can't see any benefit. Splitting the data into two places adds the danger of it getting out of sync. Standard naming conventions would be nice but defining the standard name is practically impossible. Compare taginfo to the map features wiki page. One problem with map features is

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread pangoSE
Could you reply with your arguments in favor of the current one2one tag model system in the other thread where I listed the benefits as I see them? E.g. permanent unique ids, talk pages if we want that for every osmid, SPARQL support, standardization benefits "riding the current ride in open

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
It still fails to provide even a single benefit over the current situation. Aug 9, 2020, 20:11 by pang...@riseup.net: > > > > Originalmeddelande > Från: pangoSE > Skickat: 9 augusti 2020 15:40:41 CEST > Till: talk@openstreetmap.org > Ämne: Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread pangoSE
Originalmeddelande Från: pangoSE Skickat: 9 augusti 2020 15:40:41 CEST Till: talk@openstreetmap.org Ämne: Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM This is another good reason to abandon this suggestion in favor of our own wikibase instance. Philip Barnes

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread pangoSE
This was meant for the list. Originalmeddelande Från: pangoSE Skickat: 9 augusti 2020 11:09:08 CEST Till: Mateusz Konieczny Ämne: Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM Hi Thanks for the response. Mateusz Konieczny via talk skrev: (9 augusti 2020