Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM, sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know there are strong oppositions on this list to that way of doing, some guys that have the power by the fact they own the renderer might be unappy of changes they have to do on

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Ed Loach
Nathan wrote: Maybe the answer is to modify the map features table and add columns for mapnik, osmarender, cyclemap, etc. Maybe getting rid of the generic rendering column and making it rendering for each of the viewers. What do you think? If someone does modify Map Features to add

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread sylvain letuffe
If someone does modify Map Features to add extra columns to the tables then the perl script which automatically parses the page to highlight the Not in Map Features items in the Maplint layer will also need amending. Whaou, I wasn't aware of that ! Doesn't it looks like a bit strange that a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Ed Loach
Since there is a maybe need wouldn't it be a good idea (or maybe someone allready does ?) to create an xml version of the map feature ? That is sort of what the perl script does, or tries to, I think. Once it has the XML file the program can see whether a given feature is in that file or not.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Nathan Mixter The Map Features is edited manually, means that we have to accept the fact that the list of all key/values supported by all OSM applications will never be complet and up-to-date in this wiki page. Map Features is a great page and very usefull for

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Ulf Lamping wrote: Come on. There is no the renderer, you can set up your own if you like. Anyone can. Of course, I could climb on the top of the mount everest - in theory. In practise I would need a lot of time to learn how to do that. Yes so what? I learned how osmarender styles worked

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-05 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in that case we better find another solution which can tell what tags programs will try to support. Actually, a page like map features which documented such things would be good. But the current craze on the wiki is to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-05 Thread sylvain letuffe
I wish we could have a wiki page that describes tags which are supported by at least one of the major renderers (main mapnik, osmarender, cyclemap) A column in the map feature saying which renderer is using it ? generally not rendered (path). osmarender does As it is now, I think map

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-05 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM, sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know there are strong oppositions on this list to that way of doing, some guys that have the power by the fact they own the renderer might be unappy of changes they have to do on their styles and software and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan Mixter
Maybe the answer is to modify the map features table and add columns for mapnik, osmarender, cyclemap, etc. Maybe getting rid of the generic rendering column and making it rendering for each of the viewers. What do you think? I think there is a wysiwyg media wiki plugin that might make

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Johnny Rose Carlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a description of highway=path on Map Features page? Ahahahahahahaha. So what? Are you saying Map Features is useless?, in that case we better find another

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Igor Brejc wrote: Anyway, I checked Tagwatch for Germany and it has some 17,000 paths, so it's not totally unused. I checked a random sample. Of 10 highway=path objects I checked, 8 had been highway=footway before someone decided to change it. One was a highway=residential before. One

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Johnny Rose Carlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a description of highway=path on Map Features page? Ahahahahahahaha. So what? Are you saying Map Features is useless? No, it's not useless. But there's no point

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-04 Thread Johnny Rose Carlsen
Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a description of highway=path on Map Features page? Ahahahahahahaha. So what? Are you saying Map Features is useless?, in that case we better find another solution which can tell what tags programs will try to support. Best regards, -

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-03 Thread Igor Brejc
Hello, This question has come up several times (from what I could Google out), but let me ask it again: when can we expect Mapnik OSM layer to render highway=path? Nevermind the path or footway debate - it would be nice to have paths rendered (they can be rendered the same as footways, as far

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hughes
Igor Brejc wrote: This question has come up several times (from what I could Google out), but let me ask it again: when can we expect Mapnik OSM layer to render highway=path? Nevermind the path or footway debate - it would be nice to have paths rendered (they can be rendered the same as

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Chilton
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Brejc Sent: 03 November 2008 16:14 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general Hello, This question has come up several times (from what I could Google out), but let me ask it again: when can we

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-03 Thread Igor Brejc
Tom Hughes wrote: Igor Brejc wrote: This question has come up several times (from what I could Google out), but let me ask it again: when can we expect Mapnik OSM layer to render highway=path? Nevermind the path or footway debate - it would be nice to have paths rendered (they can be

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't we constantly reiterating the fact that tagging is democratic? I think democratic is the wrong word. You can do what you like. There's no tyranny of the masses, for a start - minorities and majorities are both on equal