Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-12 Thread MP
Fixing subway stations in Rome wouldn't be prohibited to newcomers if they limit themselves for that day to Rome, encouraging them to focus on an area rather than jumping around the globe changing things (True value of OSM is _local_ knowledge!). They could be first only allowed to map

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-12 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 12/7/09, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: (long road routes across US/australia or even flights - one user in Even the current limits make it time consuming downloading multiple areas to cover drives in rural areas I've taken in the last month alone.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-11 Thread Stefan Baebler
Hi! First, some clarifications: The possible measures and use limitations were only provided as an example what can be observed and measured and what could be limited before earning enough trust in a wat that would be much more effective and less annoying than captchas. It was not a specific

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-11 Thread MP
What about not adding restrictions to the rights, but implement some warning system? We can use some trust points that are awarded for good mapping (objects that last on the map) Then warning points in each upload for possibly bad things (deleted nodes, removed tags, accidentally moving many

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-11 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Stefan Baebler stefan.baeb...@gmail.com wrote: Fixing subway stations in Rome wouldn't be prohibited to newcomers if they limit themselves for that day to Rome, encouraging them to focus on an area rather than jumping around the globe changing things (True Hopefully

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hello, Goal Prevent creation of new sock puppet accounts for potential acts of vandalism on larger scale and spam. Gradually give trust to users, and give them additional privileges. It should not be in the way when new users want to contribute normally. It should not encourage competition

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Jack Stringer
As osm grows the chances that somone will try to damage the map grows. Maybe a new user should have their edits checked when they first join and then build trust that way. Make it a random check but put the priority on the new users. If somone does a large edit then it can be flagged to be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Sam Vekemans
Agreed, Trust points not needed. The system in place now, which prevents vandalism, is of users all the time always have their eyes on the map. Unlike other websites, which bots might manage. .. we have actual people always watching it. The instant that new edits are made, everyone is aware of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 10/7/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote: As osm grows the chances that somone will try to damage the map grows. Maybe a new user should have their edits checked when they first join and then build trust that way. Make it a random check but put the priority on the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Igor Brejc
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Ie. in Montreal someone accidentally moved a bunch of stuff (a newbie) it was reported on the talk-ca list, they messaged that user so to see if it was a bot or a person. And it was a person, who made an

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Kevin Peat
I don't realistically see an automated reputation system working given the community we have but how about a mentoring type approach where experienced mappers adopt one or more newbies. When someone signs-up for the project (or maybe when they make their first edit) they could be given a list of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 10/7/09, Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com wrote: I don't realistically see an automated reputation system working given the community we have but how about a mentoring type approach where experienced mappers adopt one or more newbies. Well it would have saved a lot of newbie

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Kevin Peat
2009/7/10 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com Well, as the OSM community grows exponentially at the moment we will run out of expereinced mappers pretty soon ... There might be exponential growth in accounts opened by lurkers, bots, and spammers but I don't think the growth in people

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Sam Vekemans
When someone signs-up for the project (or maybe when they make their first edit) they could be given a list of available mentors preferably in their local area but failing that you Cool, perhaps there could be a way that on the list of the 10 local mappers in the area, to sort those who have

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-10 Thread Chris Hunter
this, but the way the editors handle the tiger:reviewed=no tag would probably be a good framework to build off of. Chris Hunter chunter...@gmail.com From: Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com To: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:00:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM

[OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-09 Thread Stefan Baebler
I've put some thoughts towards preventing vandalism and spam and how that could be automated without getting in a way of normal, legitimate users. Draft is available at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Stefanb/TrustPoints It's also included below for your convenience. Feedback,