Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Martijn van Exel
The once-and-for-all solution would be a full history DB schema from which vector tiles could be extracted for any point in time. Martijn van Exel > On Jan 30, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > > On 2017-01-30 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: >> I suspect the main problem is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.01.2017 12:42, Simon Poole napisał(a): It is less a HW issue but more that you would still need to keep 10+ tile servers plus databases running which is, ahem, silly :-). With Docker containers it might not be any wiser =} , but it should be at least easy to manage. -- "A dragon

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Simon Poole
It is less a HW issue but more that you would still need to keep 10+ tile servers plus databases running which is, ahem, silly :-). I don't have a pointer handy but there has been some work done on extracting a certain point in time iirc from a API DB via views, that might scale slightly better.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-01-30 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: I suspect the main problem is that in 2007 we didn't really have a lot of data so rendering tiles or it is really not such a big issue. However 2010 and later would require per point in time a rather largish rendering DB plus space for tiles a model that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Simon Poole
I suspect the main problem is that in 2007 we didn't really have a lot of data so rendering tiles or it is really not such a big issue. However 2010 and later would require per point in time a rather largish rendering DB plus space for tiles a model that neither scales nor would seem to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Martijn van Exel
My poor little tile server machine doesn’t have the storage for that, but it would sure be cool to set this up for more points in time. The server itself is not hard to get up and running, although I did find the instructions on switch2osm to be out of date. I followed the instructions here:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Warin
It is 'nice' to see the progress of OSM. Rather than a yearly thing .. every 7 years might be ok, there was a TV program on some children progressing into adulthood .. think that was done every 7 or so years too. On 29-Jan-17 05:12 AM, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Martin, Thank you, great

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Dave F
It's great to see it back up & running. As has been mentioned a time slider for intervening years would be nice. Also, would it be possible to render it in the carto of the corresponding year to see the difference in appearance? DaveF On 26/01/2017 22:17, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Martin, Thank you, great job :) *François* 2017-01-28 17:25 GMT+01:00 Maarten Deen : > What would be really wonderful is a yearly layer so you can see the > history changing. Just like http://topotijdreis.nl/ > > Maarten > > On 2017-01-28 16:08, joost schouppe wrote: > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Maarten Deen
What would be really wonderful is a yearly layer so you can see the history changing. Just like http://topotijdreis.nl/ Maarten On 2017-01-28 16:08, joost schouppe wrote: Any chance we'll see some middle version there too in the future? (say, 2012. And than later, 1/1/20**) You gave us a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread joost schouppe
Any chance we'll see some middle version there too in the future? (say, 2012. And than later, 1/1/20**) You gave us a finger, let me grab your entire arm :) 2017-01-26 23:17 GMT+01:00 Martijn van Exel : > Hi all, > > I resuscitated the OSM then and now service, where you can

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-26 Thread Hans De Kryger
Wo! *Regards,* *Hans* On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > I resuscitated the OSM then and now service, where you can compare OSM as > it was in October 2007 with now. > The service is a bit slow because 2007 tiles above z10 are not >

[OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, I resuscitated the OSM then and now service, where you can compare OSM as it was in October 2007 with now. The service is a bit slow because 2007 tiles above z10 are not pre-rendered. This will improve as tiles get cached. Here is the location of SOTM 2016 as an example:

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-09 Thread Aury88
seconda ;-) - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/2007-2015-Fwd-OSM-talk-OSM-Then-and-Now-revived-tp5851445p5851976.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 09.08.2015 um 09:36 schrieb Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: ok, questo strumento non fa vedere le relazioni, ma tra una mappa praticamente vuota perchè troppo indietro nel passato ed uno strumento che mi lascia decidere la data ma non mi fa vedere le relazioni

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-09 Thread Aury88
metto in dubbio comunque che lo strumento online possa interessare molti in altre zone...ripeto , hanno scopi diversi e ognuno ha i propri notevoli limiti. - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/2007-2015-Fwd-OSM-talk-OSM-Then-and-Now-revived

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-08 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Ho usato osm-history-renderer più volte https://vimeo.com/33727850 (trento) https://vimeo.com/45714694 (alto adige e alcuni comuni altoatesini) https://vimeo.com/78784071 (matera) https://vimeo.com/124492347 (torino) https://vimeo.com/124492348 (monta) il pacchetto osm-history-import crea una

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 08.08.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: Sul discorso multipoligoni mi gioco la carta del devo dare una occhiata a osm-history-import lo dice in run it: Beware: the importer does not honor relations right now, so no multipolygon-areas or

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 06.08.2015 um 09:49 schrieb Max1234Ita max1234...@gmail.com: Aggiungo: se non ricordo male, gli import più vecchi che ho trovato (dati derivati da European Environment Agency, o qualcosa del genere) risalivano al 2009. c'erano i centri abitati (non ricordo da chi,

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Max1234Ita
Aggiungo: se non ricordo male, gli import più vecchi che ho trovato (dati derivati da European Environment Agency, o qualcosa del genere) risalivano al 2009. MAx -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/2007-2015-Fwd-OSM-talk-OSM-Then-and-Now-revived-tp5851445p5851785

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 06.08.2015 um 09:56 schrieb Stefano saba...@gmail.com: Si possono generare con https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-renderer si, ma non fa vedere le relazioni (multipoligoni ecc), oppure si? ciao Martin ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Max1234Ita
-- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/2007-2015-Fwd-OSM-talk-OSM-Then-and-Now-revived-tp5851445p5851784.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 06.08.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Max1234Ita max1234...@gmail.com: Sarebbe interessante vedere l'evoluzione nel tempo, potendo partire anche da altre date, non solo dal 2007 :-) avevo fatto, nel 2011, 3 visualizzazioni su Lazio, Roma e Roma centro dal 2007 al 2011. Si

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-06 Thread Stefano
Il giorno 4 agosto 2015 19:28, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 1 August 2015 at 11:24, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: potrebbe interessare anche qui... non molto... l'italia è quasi tutta bianca ;-) sarebbe bello avere delle tile per ogni anno...

Re: [Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 04.08.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: non molto... l'italia è quasi tutta bianca ;-) comunque anche questo mi sembra bello a sapere ;-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-01 02:08, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then: http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834 I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 01/08/2015 02:08, Martijn van Exel a écrit : Hi all, The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then: http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834 I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 01 August 2015, Martijn van Exel wrote: The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then: http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834 I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and

[Talk-it] 2007/2015 Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
potrebbe interessare anche qui... ciao, Martin sent from a phone Anfang der weitergeleiteten E‑Mail: Le 01/08/2015 02:08, Martijn van Exel a écrit : Hi all, The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then:

[OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-07-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then: http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834 I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share your favorite comparisons! Martijn van Exel