Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Richard -- I filed a bug for this, there was some discussion, and I closed it: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1754 Feel free to reopen if you think this needs more discussion. The consensus seemed to be that lakes within forests should be tagged as inner of the forest

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-17 Thread Richard
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 07:27:11PM -0700, Paul Norman wrote: This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers are linked. OpenStreetMap Carto 2.33.0 has been released. This release focuses on cartographic style improvements, but the release notes

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-17 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
Op 17 aug. 2015, om 16:48 heeft Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org het volgende geschreven: Richard -- I filed a bug for this, there was some discussion, and I closed it: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1754

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Lester Caine
On 15/08/15 23:04, Paul Norman wrote: 17 117 occurences is not 'not in the database'. No, a key not in https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/openstreetmap-carto.style is not in the database. landcover is not in that list, so is not in the database. The data is in

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 1:15 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: 17 117 occurences is not 'not in the database'. No, a key not in https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/openstreetmap-carto.style is not in the database. landcover is not in that list, so is not in the database.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread moltonel
On 15 August 2015 14:16:06 GMT+01:00, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO it would rather encourage mappers to make more sense out of these than it is now. I'm myself adding a pointless landuse=forest for every landcover=trees now (for the renderer), and I guess most other

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 15.08.2015 um 13:50 schrieb Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de: The question is how much is actually gained from this when landuse=forest and natural=wood are practically identical anyway and mean the same, namely 'this area is densely covered by trees'.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Dave F.
To clarify, I'm not advocating the use of landcover=* tag (I'm on the fence). However I've never liked that fact that an attribute of tree areas (managed) was differentiated with primary key tags instead of sub-tags such as: landuse/landcover=wood/trees managed=yes/no landcover=trees is

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Dave F.
Hi Does the combined wood/forest update include landcover=trees? If not it needs to be included all three should render the same (IMO). Cheers Dave F. On 15/08/2015 03:27, Paul Norman wrote: This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread tony wroblewski
The woodland change looks much better, but would it not be possible to render broadleaved, needleleaved and mixed using different tree images, as seen on other maps? This would, I think, give people more incentive to add this information when mapping woodland. Regards Tony On 15 August 2015 at

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Dave F.
I'm on the fence about this. Does the 'general purpose' mapnik rendering need such distinctions? Would the vast majority of end users really care. Could it even make it more confusing for them? Cheers Dave F. On 15/08/2015 12:45, tony wroblewski wrote: The woodland change looks much better,

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 15 August 2015, Dave F. wrote: Hi Does the combined wood/forest update include landcover=trees? If not it needs to be included all three should render the same (IMO). The question is how much is actually gained from this when landuse=forest and natural=wood are practically

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 4:45 AM, tony wroblewski wrote: The woodland change looks much better, but would it not be possible to render broadleaved, needleleaved and mixed using different tree images, as seen on other maps? Not at the moment. See

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 4:26 AM, Dave F. wrote: Hi Does the combined wood/forest update include landcover=trees? If not it needs to be included all three should render the same (IMO). No. Nor are there any issues created about rendering landcover=trees. As the landcover key is currently not in the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Ruben Maes
Saturday 15 August 2015 12:59:55, Paul Norman: On 8/15/2015 4:26 AM, Dave F. wrote: Hi Does the combined wood/forest update include landcover=trees? If not it needs to be included all three should render the same (IMO). No. Nor are there any issues created about rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Daniel Koć
Please, remember to change the subject when the subject shift occurs... W dniu 15.08.2015 22:15, Ruben Maes napisał(a): 17 117 occurences is not 'not in the database'. Sure, it's only 0.12% of all landuses, but this is a key that isn't even rendered on the default style. Paul was talking

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers are linked. OpenStreetMap Carto 2.33.0 has been released. This release focuses on cartographic style improvements, but the release notes also include 2.32.0. The biggest changes are - A randomized

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/14/2015 7:27 PM, Paul Norman wrote: This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers are linked. I forgot to mention in the earlier message, please file any bug reports at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto