Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-13 Thread Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:56:07 +0400 Gleb Smirnoff gleb...@glebius.int.ru wrote: Dave, On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Dave F. wrote: D The wiki page describes subjective information. D D Unless it's actually closed by authority don't say it's D impassible. For instance in

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-11 Thread Ed Avis
I think that whether a road is passable or impassable is certainly factual information, and no more subjective than whether it is 'residential', 'secondary' or 'track'. If a road is impassable in summer - or more than that, simply does not exist in summer, being just swamp - then this is a fact

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-11 Thread Konrad Skeri
I was just about to say that at least this winter road [1] is impassable at summer, but then I remembered about the Rinspeed sQuba [2]. [1] http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/379398.htm [2] http://jalopnik.com/356461/rinspeed-squba-bonds-lotus-submarine-made-real Konrad

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-09 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Dave, On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Dave F. wrote: D The wiki page describes subjective information. D D Unless it's actually closed by authority don't say it's impassible. For D instance in defense of your argument that it's impassable you say the D average speed is 0.5km/h.

[OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Hello, the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be marked on map. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface:winter_road -- Totus tuus, Glebius. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Dave F.
On 08/10/2010 12:30, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Hello, the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be marked on map. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface:winter_road This type of tag is based on subjective opinions which is bad

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Dave, On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:50:22PM +0100, Dave F. wrote: D the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be D marked on map. D D http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface:winter_road D D This type of tag is based on subjective opinions

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 14:18, Gleb Smirnoff gleb...@glebius.int.ru wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:50:22PM +0100, Dave F. wrote: D    the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be D marked on map. D D    

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel Herding
Am 08.10.2010 13:30, schrieb Gleb Smirnoff: the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be marked on map. There is an opposite concept in the Alps, where some mountain passes are impassable during the winter months. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintersperre (in

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Dmitri Lebedev
Hello, I want to support this guy's proposal. I have to say winter roads are a totally different thing than normal roads. In summer, there's just no road at all. NO ROAD. If you need to get somewhere, use river boats or helicopters. The area where a winter road is can be a swamp, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 19:23, Dmitri Lebedev siberia.acca...@gmail.com wrote: I want to support this guy's proposal. Then support it by starting to map it. Really, there's no reason to get formal approval for tags. Just write down on some Russian wikipage that winter roads are

[OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Dmitri Lebedev
Hi, Dave F., For instance the second photo' is labeled as impassable. Clearly it is not. I could go down it on foot, mountain bike or even a suitable motor vehicle despite what is said on the wiki. Being young and dreaming is nice, but no, you couldn't. :) Basically, you'll have to carry