Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-07 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:04:23 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Having a bot flag would be good for a number of reasons but your problem would not be solved by that. In my opinion this is not something we can do in the API (personally I think the history tab on the web page was a big mistake, I

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-07 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:31:50 -0700, Gregory wrote: This is the ideal solution. I actually want an option to see bot edits in the history. But only when the edited objects are in the area I'm looking at (or at least near). Agreed, I would also like to see edits in my area of interest or near

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:04:23 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Having a bot flag would be good for a number of reasons but your problem would not be solved by that. In my opinion this is not something we can do in the API (personally I think the history tab on the web page was a big mistake, I

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-06 Thread Gregory
On 6 April 2010 12:51, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I can only try to speak with bot programmers and ask if it is possible not to span so vast areas. This is the ideal solution. I actually want an option to see bot edits in the history. But only when the edited objects are

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-05 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:54:31 +0100, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:57, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0100, Polderrunner wrote: Why bother whether the changeset was created by a bot or not. Simply offer the user the choice not to display big changesets

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-04 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0100, Polderrunner wrote: Why bother whether the changeset was created by a bot or not. Simply offer the user the choice not to display big changesets (say those covering more than 5 degrees in either latitude or longitude). That should get rid of most bot edits

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-04-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:57, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:11:12 +0100, Polderrunner wrote: Why bother whether the changeset was created by a bot or not. Simply offer the user the choice not to display big changesets (say those covering more than 5 degrees in either latitude or

[OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
When will bots be removed from history in Potlach? It is really hard to see what is going on in some area when all I can see are bot entries and (big) entries. Please, please remote bot entries from Potlach history. Here is how history of edits currently looks like for my home town:

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:12, Valent Turkovic wrote: When will bots be removed from history in Potlach? It is really hard to see what is going on in some area when all I can see are bot entries and (big) entries. Please, please remote bot entries from Potlach history. Here is how history

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
Tom Hughes wrote: When will bots be removed from history in Potlach? It is really hard to see what is going on in some area when all I can see are bot entries and (big) entries. How do you propose that we identify bots? Wikipedia requires accounts used for automated editing to have a bot

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:26:00 +, Tom Hughes wrote: How do you propose that we identify bots? They have names, on the screenshot I would see 90% less noise if only xybot user is removed from the list. There could be easily comiled a list of the bots that make most of the edits, there are

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:49:05 +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote: Wikipedia requires accounts used for automated editing to have a bot flag. This information is then used to add Bs next to Bot edits in history/watchlist/... and for a Hide bots filter in these lists. Instead of making this a property

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Tom Hughes
On 28/02/10 11:35, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: The alternative would be to educate each other on how to map properly, so the bots don't have to fix sloppy mapping all the time. Another possibility would be more people learning that there is no one official or proper way to map which they need to

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes schrieb: On 28/02/10 11:35, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: The alternative would be to educate each other on how to map properly, so the bots don't have to fix sloppy mapping all the time. Another possibility would be more people learning

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:35:50 +0100, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: The alternative would be to educate each other on how to map properly, so the bots don't have to fix sloppy mapping all the time. I would love to see bots that are making changes it the changes were in area I'm monitoring, but I see

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: There are some valid ideas that don't need much cpu processing or some fancy coding. Just tag bot accounts as bots and offer to remove them from history list. That's an el-cheapo solution that would scratch your particular itch but still it would hide bots that

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 28.02.10 12:26, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:26:00 +, Tom Hughes wrote: How do you propose that we identify bots? They have names, on the screenshot I would see 90% less noise if only xybot user is removed from the list. btw. xybot's author has reduced the

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Frank Sautter
Tobias Knerr wrote: Instead of making this a property of an account, we could also implement bot flags for individual edits by attaching a bot=yes to the changeset. good idea! i just implemented a bot=yes tag for changeset of xybot and its brothers. it's now the history-tab-programmers'

Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?

2010-02-28 Thread Polderrunner
Valent Turkovic wrote: There are some valid ideas that don't need much cpu processing or some fancy coding. Just tag bot accounts as bots and offer to remove them from history list. Why bother whether the changeset was created by a bot or not. Simply offer the user the choice not to