Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24:06AM +0100, David Earl wrote: And I think the previous point about other alphabets is a red herring too: basically no letter can precede all other letters in whatever alphabet. If there's ambiguity in the alphabet due to the glyph The problem is as follows:

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Peter Körner
The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy. This will work for all alphabets where that are layed out in

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy. This will work for all alphabets where that are layed out in

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:26:11AM +0200, Peter Körner wrote: The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy.

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/2 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: No. The interpolation way has less nodes in it than houses. Thats the whole point of having an interpolation way. Otherwise you'd just use those nodes and tag them with the right house numbers and you are done. +1. Why not simply use explicit

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
On 02/10/2009 12:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/10/2 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: No. The interpolation way has less nodes in it than houses. Thats the whole point of having an interpolation way. Otherwise you'd just use those nodes and tag them with the right house numbers and you are

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread James Livingston
On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A would not. I'm not sure you how you can interpolate things like this correctly

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:35 +1000, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 09:51, James Livingston wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A would not. I'm not sure you how

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: Since I haven't heard any counter points of view, how do we proceed with this?    Based on previous comments, it should not just be Edit the wiki page, or is this change small enough to just update the wiki? If you're referring

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Thread David Earl
On 28 Sep 2009, at 05:22, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Thread David Earl
What plugin are you talking about? The AdvancedAddressDB of Traveling Salesman? Sorry, the AddrInterpolation plugin in JOSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/AddrInterpolation which doesn't allow you to put just a number in the starting # field when numbering scheme is set to

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:33:25PM +0100, David Earl wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across was 25, 25A, 25B, ... I wonder whether addr:interpolation=alphabetic could include this

[OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-27 Thread David Earl
I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across was 25, 25A, 25B, ... I wonder whether addr:interpolation=alphabetic could include this case (in essence when the first node has no letter, the second

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-27 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across was 25, 25A, 25B, ... I wonder whether addr:interpolation=alphabetic

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-11 Thread Brian Quinion
Thank you Brian for your tips, I edited address with suggestions you made. Can I ask you just to check if I made it ok now, because I will start adding street numbers so I would like to be sure I'm doing ti correctly:

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-11 Thread Tobias Knerr
So I should remove: addr:city = Osijek addr:country = Croatia addr:postcode = 31000 addr:street = Starigradska from way and put it back on nodes? Imo, yes, you should put all those details onto the objects that carry addr:housenumber (either nodes or building outlines). That's the method

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-11 Thread Brian Quinion
Imo, yes, you should put all those details onto the objects that carry addr:housenumber (either nodes or building outlines). That's the method intended by the documentation and I don't see a good reason for not sticking to it in this case. inconsistent duplication. I can't image having to

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-11 Thread Tobias Knerr
Brian Quinion wrote: Imo, yes, you should put all those details onto the objects that carry addr:housenumber (either nodes or building outlines). That's the method intended by the documentation and I don't see a good reason for not sticking to it in this case. inconsistent duplication. I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-10 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Brian Quinionopenstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using address interpolation for

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:18:33PM +0100, Brian Quinion wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if there are some errors:

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Mike N.
I'd suggest moving all the following tags addr:city = Osijek addr:country = 385 addr:postcode = 31000 addr:street = Starigradska to the way (rather than the individual nodes). And I'd suggest that addr:country = 385 is unlikely to be understood. No! Please don't do that. That makes

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Ed Loach
No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then there are two possible ways, where data can be. Please use only addr:interpolation on the way and everything else on the nodes. Which seems to be the opposite of what the section on the Karlsruhe interpolation wiki section says:

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Brian Quinion
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/489432179 I'd suggest moving all the following tags addr:city = Osijek addr:country = 385 addr:postcode = 31000 addr:street = Starigradska No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then there are two possible ways, where data can be.

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 02:51:36PM +0100, Ed Loach wrote: No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then there are two possible ways, where data can be. Please use only addr:interpolation on the way and everything else on the nodes. Which seems to be the opposite of what

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Brian Quinion
that you can ignore tags on the way just doesn't work. Your advise Do you have numbers for that? There are, as of last Wednesday: 46899 uses with addr:street in this way I described 209340 uses with addr:street used to link a building outline to a street 2947067 uses with addr:street used to

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Brian Quinion wrote: No, duplication is almost always bad (caching may be an exception). Inconsistent data is the enemy of all good database management *Inconsistent* data is surely not desirable, but *redundant* information may well have its place because it makes it easier to spot

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Brian Quinionopenstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-09 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:28 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com wrote: in this case I agree we should stick to the schema the way it was originally defined, good or bad, and I normally only use  addr:street on the nodes. +1 Another argument for doing that is that the addr:interpolation

[OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-08 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if there are some errors: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.544703lon=18.718653zoom=18layers=B000FTF Thank you in advance! -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [OSM-talk] Address interpolation

2009-09-08 Thread Brian Quinion
Hi, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if there are some errors: