Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: So anyway, i propose to add surface=gravel;dirt;grass;concrete, to go along side highway=value. (which listed more generally, what the way is generally used for (type of travel between 2 points) Umm someone already has

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-19 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, Are you referring to the JOSM presets? As for some reason the only values they include for surface are paved / unpaved / cobblestone. If so, I would agree would that there should be some more options available, at least some of the common values, eg gravel, dirt, grass, concrete

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-14 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:31:38AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: ... and it is NOT assumed surface=paved. .. we don't ASSUME :)  .. instead we have If no other values of surface is listed, the default value is surface=paved ... but actually, it should be surface=undefined, as the

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-14 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Friday 14 August 2009 00:31:38 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/13 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: surface earth Probably the same as surface=ground should be change to the same as surface=dirt yes, clean up a little bit: dirt, mud, earth, ground seem all the same to me (I

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/14 Blaž Lorger blaz.lor...@triera.net: I usually tag paved road segment adjacent to unpaved road segment as paved. Otherwise it is all too easy to combine road segments without any warning from editor. I often do the same, if I got the impression that it is not completely clear from the

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/14 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:31:38AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: type of ways - I see a lot of bloat coming when people start tagging        access = yes        bicycle = yes        foot = yes        layer = 0        maxspeed = 30        

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-14 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le vendredi 14 août 2009 à 15:02, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : but IMHO it is an error in the editors not to warn you, if tags are added in a combine-action (not only on contradictory tags should warn). I already filed a trac-ticket for JOSM some time ago. +1 I've had the problem some month

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/13 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: surface earth Probably the same as surface=ground should be change to the same as surface=dirt yes, clean up a little bit: dirt, mud, earth, ground seem all the same to me (I personally prefer ground). ... and it is NOT assumed

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/08/2009 01:41, Sam Vekemans wrote: This is where my national headache begins. (surface=smoothISH) If we simply have the default options to list 'gravel' 'dirt' 'concrete', because 'unpaved' is rather ill-defined. It just indicates 'paved_ash_fault=no', but doesn't go further.

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-12 Thread Sam Vekemans
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 12/08/2009 01:41, Sam Vekemans wrote: This is where my national headache begins. (surface=smoothISH) If we simply have the default options to list 'gravel' 'dirt' 'concrete', because 'unpaved' is rather

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

2009-08-12 Thread Courtland Yockey
Thread: Sam Vekemans (12/08/2009) Craig Wallace (12/08/2009) Sam Vekemans (12/08/2009) Regarding excerpt: Yes, that is exactly what i am referring too. We ALSO need to have a special wiki page (that lists each of these things, and how they are rendered, and used. This will alleviate the

[OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, That 90 message thread on highway=path and highway=footway;cycleway has gone on too long IMO. Multi-use path; greenway In Canada we have this multi-use Greenway where trails are not actually designated:use specific, but rather, just listed as a 'path' with a surface type. Then, we add in

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-11 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: So anyway, i propose to add surface=gravel;dirt;grass;concrete, to go along side highway=value. (which listed more generally, what the way is generally used for (type of travel between 2 points) Umm someone already has

Re: [OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete: dirt; grass

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/11/2009 07:41 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote: So anyway, i propose to add surface=gravel;dirt;grass;concrete, to go along side highway=value. (which listed more generally, what the way is generally used for (type of travel between 2 points) We already have those values, see