Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
As you mention I can see these being useful for emergency services or anyone who has been granted access to private roads/tracks. If you're mapping based on what you can see from the aerial imagery, then I see no issue with mapping these as access=private. On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 09:46, Warin

Re: [talk-au] Mailing lists (was: Re: Discussion H: public transport – the end game)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Sebastian S.
I too stated that the way he perceives the mailing list and wrote about the interface being poor that this might be due to the email client or settings he is using. Unfortunately there was no reaction to this (as with most of the other post). I agree with Frederick that we should have more

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Sebastian S.
I map them with access private because I can see them on aerial images and on the ground. If the path is e.g. behind a high hedge I will limit to the visible part or what I can see on aerial images. I think mapping these roads adds value for everyone who is trying to get to the particular

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Herbert.Remi via Talk-au
# Principle of tagging 1. Tagging should be consistent with the laws of the jurisdiction 2. Tagging should not be code but be explicit 3. Tagging should be useful 4. Tagging should be intuitive 5. Tagging should be easy (regional presets) I will comment on the first two. ## Principle 1 ONE set

[talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Warin
Hi, I am in 2 minds about this ... these roads exist so they can be seen. They might be usefull navigational features; firstly to plot progress along a public road - you have just past this private road so you must he here on the map. secondly for any emergency services - mainly thinking of

[Talk-bo] Mapilleada el 20 Octubre en Bolivia

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Marco Antonio
Hola, Aprovechando el día de las elecciones en Bolivia, vendría bien animamos a mapillear lugares que no tiene fotos? o quizá añadir algunas calles que no tienen datos como nombre, sentido, superficie? o quizá la escuela y sus nombres? Es ideal un día que no hay autos y hay poca gente en las

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 04/10/2019 20:28, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 10/4/19 20:51, Mark Goodge wrote: The reality is that people expect postcodes to be a functional search term on online mapping, at least in the UK, You *are* ware that UK post codes are fully findable on the OSM website and any site that

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Chris Hill
On 04/10/2019 15:41, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Twopenn'orth and not particularly a reply to any single message: 1. I'm not against them being in the OSM database, mostly for the reason that it's unrealistic to expect every single app to do additional processing for all 195 countries in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Chris Hill
On 04/10/2019 01:52, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: Besides, the main reason for importing these data is that we can get _all_ postcodes in the database. This gives users confidence that when they search for a postcode they will reliably get a result they are looking for. This is not possible

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/4/19 20:51, Mark Goodge wrote: > The reality is that people expect postcodes to be a functional search term on > online mapping, at least in the UK, You *are* ware that UK post codes are fully findable on the OSM website and any site that runs the Nominatim geocoder? It must have been

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 04/10/2019 01:52, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: This may not be a perfect solution but the information CPO/ONSPD contains is still extremely useful for geocoding. Search for a postcode and you are _guaranteed_ to get an address in a close vicinity to a place you are looking for. How about

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
Thanks for this Chris, I've just added about 100 addr:postcodes to some of my manor in no time at all. It was mostly pretty easy to identify a good match for and existing building. Then I went back and added a source tag as an afterthought. Great stuff all round, I''l try to remember to make

[OSM-talk-ie] Introducing the RelationDissolve plugin

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden John Kennedy
Hi all. For those interested in adding boundaries into OSM, I have developed a small JOSM plugin to dissolve relations. Intent is to make it much easier to create boundaries that are based on existing boundaries (e.g. townlands or EDs). Brian has given v0.1.0 a good hammering and so far so good.

Re: [Talk-us] Maine leaf-off imagery?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:16 AM Bill Ricker wrote: > I would also be interested in how to use LAZ files with OSM tools or other > FLOSS tools. > (I note there's an open tool to uncompress LAZ to LAS.) > I see some tutorials for extracting buildings, but I'm interested in > traces of former

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Lieux-dits Fantoir surfaciques

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Christian Rogel
> Le 3 oct. 2019 à 23:13, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit > : > > > Je n'ai pas l'impression qu'on gagnera en pertinence en important des > agrégats de parcelles nommées issues du cadastre (notre seule source > surfacique) tant c'est un contenu partiel (on a bien plus de lieux-dits sur

Re: [Talk-us] Maine leaf-off imagery?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Bill Ricker
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:05 PM Kevin wrote: > I use https://coast.noaa.gov/inventory/ quite a lot to see what elevation > products (usually looking for lidar) are available for any given area. > > So LIDAR was flown in 2016 in the Bethel area. >

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Richard Fairhurst
Twopenn'orth and not particularly a reply to any single message: 1. I'm not against them being in the OSM database, mostly for the reason that it's unrealistic to expect every single app to do additional processing for all 195 countries in the world. Sure, it would be nice if Osmand and maps.me

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Dan S
Op vr 4 okt. 2019 om 14:07 schreef Russ Garrett : > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 13:59, David Woolley wrote: > > Although I don't have a primary source for this, my understanding is > > that the median is snapped to the nearest actual delivery point within > > the postcode. > > I was also under the

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Russ Garrett
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 13:59, David Woolley wrote: > Although I don't have a primary source for this, my understanding is > that the median is snapped to the nearest actual delivery point within > the postcode. I was also under the impression that they were mathematical centroids of the postcode

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden David Woolley
On 04/10/2019 13:47, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: No. The centre point is not associated with *any* delivery point. It is an arbitrary mean, calculated mathematically. it could, in theory, be located in the middle of a park. Even postcodes unique to one property/business aren't accurate as their

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/10/2019 12:46, Andrew Davidson wrote: I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. I think that it's actually a bit more complicated than that.  The "standard" style on OpenStreetMap.org changed to displaying footway and path the same because it was clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Dave F via Talk-GB
On 04/10/2019 01:52, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: On 04/10/2019 00:26, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I think you're missing the point. Most contributors believe postcodes on buildings or property nodes, add quality to the OSM's database, but object to the import of codepoint as it's just not

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 5:20 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: though for something that's unpaved then highway=path and highway=footway mean the same thing to me. I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. The default now appears to be unpaved for both as they are rendered the same.

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Edward Bainton
My usual disclaimer that I have no great OSM expertise. Hopefully I can give a newbie's/recently-a-non-editor's perspective. This: > How about not needing to start Google Maps > when searching for a location on the go? would be reason enough to bring in postcodes in this way. Even if they're

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Warin
On 04/10/19 17:20, Andrew Harvey wrote: Fair points, so I agree to revert back the previous guidelines. I see highway=path used a lot for unsignposted bush walking track (single person wide, definitely not wide enough for vehicles), though for something that's unpaved then highway=path and

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Fair points, so I agree to revert back the previous guidelines. I see highway=path used a lot for unsignposted bush walking track (single person wide, definitely not wide enough for vehicles), though for something that's unpaved then highway=path and highway=footway mean the same thing to me. On

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny
4 Oct 2019, 01:26 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > There's no point in importing to stand alone nodes as deliveries are destined > for buildings.  > Importing accurate and complete address nodes on a suitable licence is certainly helpful. Not sure is it applying also to incomplete set, but based

Re: [Talk-at] Änderung von Bezirks- und Gemeindenamen in Tirol und Vorarlberg

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden andreas wecer
Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 22:16 Uhr schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > und die letzten Jahre hat es doch auch kein Problem damit gegeben > > Wenn du persönlich kein Problem damit hast, heißt das noch lang nicht, > dass > es keines gibt. Ich z.B. habe immer wieder Probleme damit, wenn ich für > den >

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:30 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm mildly for reverting, although I'm happy to hear out arguments either > way and be proven wrong. > Up until May this year path meant an unsealed "track" that was too small for vehicles (or at least that's how mappers were using them) now

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm mildly for reverting, although I'm happy to hear out arguments either way and be proven wrong. - The footpath which runs along side the road which is not explicitly signposted for bicycles should be highway=footway + footway=sidewalk, even in states where you can ride on the footpath, as it's

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ewen Hill
Yes it does - sorry - I read that incorrectly by not reading the second part. On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 16:17, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:13 PM Ewen Hill wrote: > >> Daniel, >>I thought it was 250watts for e-bikes (a European standard now >> basically global) so the book

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM Daniel O'Connor wrote: > +1. > > Do have to amend the bits around not legal for SA cyclists to be on > footpaths given > https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/23438/DPTI-Cycling-and-the-Law-Booklet.pdf > These days it might be easier to say everywhere

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:13 PM Ewen Hill wrote: > Daniel, >I thought it was 250watts for e-bikes (a European standard now > basically global) so the book may be incorrect anyway > > Isn't that what it says on page 3? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ewen Hill
Daniel, I thought it was 250watts for e-bikes (a European standard now basically global) so the book may be incorrect anyway Ewen On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 16:07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > +1. > > Do have to amend the bits around not legal for SA cyclists to be on > footpaths given >

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ewen Hill
Herbert, Having a look at your selection clauses below, the node and relation are probably not required. You may also want to look at way["highway"="cycleway"] and way["bicycle"="designated"] (regardless of highway type) I have also used styling so you can quickly see what the issues (real

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Daniel O'Connor
+1. Do have to amend the bits around not legal for SA cyclists to be on footpaths given https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/23438/DPTI-Cycling-and-the-Law-Booklet.pdf On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:31 PM Andrew Davidson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Herbert.Remi via Talk-au <

[talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Herbert.Remi via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > There are almost no paths in the ACT compliant with Australian Tagging > Guidelines > Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Turns out that a "helpful" wiki user radically changed the suggested way