Re: [talk-ph] #MyInspirationCanRollOverNow

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Russell Deffner
Hello all, Some background for you Andy - that project was made by SeverinGeo in 2014 so it's older than the organized editing guidelines. It also does not include the hashtag in question - that was likely added by the mapper independently. I'm not sure the best way to contact the Projet Espace

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM on Raspberry pi 4

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden John Whelan
Thank you for the process. Cheerio John James wrote on 2020-12-21 19:15: wget https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar java -jar josm-latest.jar in a terminal On Mon., Dec. 21, 2020, 7:13 p.m. John Whelan, > wrote: I don't know enough about the pi to

Re: [Talk-at] Trafiken

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Stefan Tauner
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:21:46 +0100 Florian Kratochwil wrote: > Ich bin mir nicht sicher, wie man Trafiken richtig einträgt. Es gibt > shop=kiosk und shop=tobacco und shop=newsagent. Bei einer kurzen > overpass-Recherche habe ich gesehen, das alle drei in Wien für Trafiken > verwendet werden.

[talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 540

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Tom Ka
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 540 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: https://weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/14005 * SotM CZ+SK 2020. * Locus Freemap. * Dynamická data v umap. * Diskuze u sad změn. * Pobřežní čáry. * Pružnost komunit. * Kongres zastoupení OSMF. * Kandidáti do OSMF. * Mapper měsíce. * Akce olovo. * Mapy

[OSM-talk-fr] Espace Naturel sensible ENS dans OSM

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Fred Moine
Bonjour, On vient de me fournir (dpt38) une couche des différents Espaces Naturels sensibles (environ 150 polygones) à intégrer dans OSM Je comptais m'inspirer du wiki ci dessous, si vous avez des idées ou suggestions je suis preneur

Re: [Talk-GB] Anglican churches

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Mike Baggaley via Talk-GB
>It's not documented anywhere at the moment, but the different coloured >markers on the "nameless" maps at e.g. >https://osm.mathmos.net/nameless/amenity/place_of_worship simply >denote the type of OSM object: node, way or relation. > >Robert. Hi Robert, the nameless places of worship report

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden David Woolley
On 21/12/2020 11:14, Richard Fairhurst wrote: More philosophically, post towns violate the “on the ground” principle. No one here writes their address as Chipping Addresses used by local people can also violate the on the ground principle. The place name I was given when I moved in appears to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
As others have said, having some uniform national scheme of places/areas that each address is assigned to is useful for anyone using addresses. No-one outside the local area will know which postal districts correspond to which areas, or even where many remote postal areas are. Local authorities

[Talk-at] Trafiken

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Florian Kratochwil
Ich bin mir nicht sicher, wie man Trafiken richtig einträgt. Es gibt shop=kiosk und shop=tobacco und shop=newsagent. Bei einer kurzen overpass-Recherche habe ich gesehen, das alle drei in Wien für Trafiken verwendet werden. --> Frage 1: Sind Trafiken so unterschiedlich, dass die verschiedenen

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
I agree. I suspect that the post town / dependent locality are correlated against the post code by the OCR processing. If there was no post town it would seriously degrade the scanning accuracy as the postcode OCR would need to be 100% accurate, which is not going to happen given the number of

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, at 4:35 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > London is the Post Town. Stratford and West Kensington are not relevant for > the delivery of post, apparently. Every day is a school day. You're right, those are Postal Districts, not towns. I was sure they used to recommend writing

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
On 2020-12-21 17:11, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > If you search for an address on the RM website, I find that (at least in > London) it does not suggest the post town is used at all, just "London", not > "Stratford" or "West Kensington" or whatever. (I mean here- >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Chris Hodges
On 21/12/2020 15:48, Mark Goodge wrote: One of the reasons there are so many fields is that each field only ever contains a single type of data. There are no multi-purpose fields. So there are separate fields for name and number. And "number" is defined internally as an integer value,

Re: [Talk-at] Probleme mit User / Qualitätsoffensive Salzburg usw.

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Robert Kaiser
Johann Haag schrieb: Wir sind in Österreich für eine gedeihliche Qualitätsdiskussion mit dem grundsätzliche Problem konfrontiert, dass Österreichs Protagonisten bislang auf das Instrument eines eigenen Local Chapter verzichten. Mit in Anonymität auftretenden Identitäten kann man schwer in einen

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Chris Hill
On 21/12/2020 15:59, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Post towns may be somewhat arbitrary, but they are at least a verifiable national scheme which we can use for addressing every location in the country. That has to have some benefits compared to each individual mapper deciding where they believe

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
If you search for an address on the RM website, I find that (at least in London) it does not suggest the post town is used at all, just "London", not "Stratford" or "West Kensington" or whatever. (I mean here- https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode ) ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Florimond Berthoux
I said what I had on my heart, you can now make fun of me, or be respectful. I agree, I already felt unpleasant manners around here. Le lun. 21 déc. 2020 à 00:51, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > > On 21. Dec 2020, at 00:05, Clay Smalley wrote: > > Va téléphone à la

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
> I just add `name`="Fourth Row" to the `building=terrace` for simplicity, > although duplicating with `addr:housename` also seems OK. For these terraces in my neck of the woods, sometimes the numbering continues on the rest of the street. For these, I use a landuse=residential with name=

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Adam Snape
Hi, Post towns may be somewhat arbitrary, but they are at least a verifiable national scheme which we can use for addressing every location in the country. That has to have some benefits compared to each individual mapper deciding where they believe each address falls - easy for many places,

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden James Derrick
Hi, On 20/12/2020 15:50, Alan Mackie wrote: I'm also unclear how to tag numbered houses in named terraces. addr:housename doesn't seem appropriate if they are shared along an entire row and addr:street already has a value. In NE England there are a number of 1850ish - 1900ish terraces where

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 21/12/2020 15:07, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Colin Smale wrote: Royal Mail say that a house number must be numeric, and anything else (like Rose Cottage, 7A, 3-7, 11/13 etc) should go in the house name field. So in a row of three adjacent, identical houses,

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Chris Hill
On 21/12/2020 15:28, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-12-21 16:07, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Colin Smale > wrote: Royal Mail say that a house number must be numeric, and anything else (like Rose Cottage, 7A, 3-7, 11/13 etc) should go in the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
On 2020-12-21 16:07, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Royal Mail say that a house number must be numeric, and anything else >> (like Rose Cottage, 7A, 3-7, 11/13 etc) should go in the house name field. > > So in a row of three adjacent, identical

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Andy Mabbett
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Colin Smale wrote: > Royal Mail say that a house number must be numeric, and anything else > (like Rose Cottage, 7A, 3-7, 11/13 etc) should go in the house name field. So in a row of three adjacent, identical houses, known as 11, 11A, and 15, two have numbers and

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:02, Alan Mackie wrote: > > I struggle with what to call the in that example. > > A recent suggestion for named terraces was to use addr:street= > and addr:parentstreet=, but if the relates the > whole building to to parentstreet, then reconstructing an address seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Anglican churches

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 18/12/2020 19:01, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: https://osm.mathmos.net/nameless/amenity/place_of_worship . I think a lot of them may have been armchair-mapped from possibly out of date maps. So if anyone is at a loose end and fancies trying to work out if the places of worship

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric forecourt

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
I would map it as amenity=charging_station area. Dec 20, 2020, 12:05 by rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com: > Hi all, > > I saw on Fully Charged (YouTube channel) that there is now a electric vehicle > charging forecourt. Unlike others, this is not a couple of charging points > added to an existing

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
On 2020-12-21 13:01, Alan Mackie wrote: > I struggle with what to call the in that example. > > A recent suggestion for named terraces was to use addr:street= > and addr:parentstreet=, but if the relates the > whole building to to parentstreet, then reconstructing an address seems >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Alan Mackie
I struggle with what to call the in that example. A recent suggestion for named terraces was to use addr:street= and addr:parentstreet=, but if the relates the whole building to to parentstreet, then reconstructing an address seems impossible. The closest existing tag seems to be

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
That's why RM have a Dependent Locality, to distinguish between cases like this. If the OSM addr:* tags are to represent postal addresses (and that seems to be the consensus) then OSM should offer a place for the Dependent Locality. RM say the Post Town is a mandatory component; why do you

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Lester Caine
On 21/12/2020 11:14, Richard Fairhurst wrote: More philosophically, post towns violate the “on the ground” principle. No one here writes their address as Chipping Norton unless PAF autocompletes it for them. No one has Chipping Norton on their letterhead. Trusting some remote third-party

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Peter Neale via Talk-GB
At the risk of throwing another edge case into the pot (and mixing metaphors), can I ask how I should tag our flat? The Post Office Official postcode checker renders it as: Flat where refers to the whole block and is common to all the flats. I cannot see what the Post Office is calling the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Richard Fairhurst
Robert Whittaker wrote: > On the basis that it's a required part of each address, I > would recommend that we do store the post town in OSM > addresses. There are significant advantages to storing it > in a consistent way, and the best existing tag to do this > would be addr:city. (We wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Christian Rogel
> Le 21 déc. 2020 à 00:54, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit > : > France is the spearhead against discrimination and gender disparity, in case > you missed it, the Paris administration just recently got fined for putting a > disproportionately high number of women in management positions: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
On 2020-12-21 10:27, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > Regarding properties (e.g. on named terraces or sub-streets), where > there are two street names (Thoroughfare and Dependent Throughourfare > in Rail Mail terminology) then we need a second key to store the other > street name under.

Re: [Talk-at] Probleme mit User / Qualitätsoffensive Salzburg usw.

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Johann Haag
Hallo erst einmal, Frederik hat einige interessante Vorschläge gemacht, wobei ich zu meinen Vorbereitungen zu Straßenflächen https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.52605/12.39857 , bei Frederik einen Interessenkonflikt mit einem Produkt seiner Firma orte. Wir sind in Österreich für eine

[Talk-de] Die OSM Emergency Map ist wieder da

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden wambacher
Moin, ich habe mich dazu durchgerungen, die OSM Emergency Map zu reanimieren. Im Gegensatz zu früher deckt sie nur Deutschland ab und wird derzeit nur 1x pro Tag aktualisiert. Grund ist, dass ich kein Planet-File vorhalte und die Daten daher

[Talk-at] Die OSM Emergency Map ist wieder da

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden wambacher
Moin, ich habe mich dazu durchgerungen, die OSM Emergency Map zu reanimieren. Im Gegensatz zu früher deckt sie nur Deutschland ab und wird derzeit nur 1x pro Tag aktualisiert. Grund ist, dass ich kein Planet-File vorhalte und die Daten daher

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 'losse' wegen

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Tim Couwelier
Het is een gevalletje van 'taggen voor de render'. De mapper in kwestie is aan het micro-mappen geweest (maar is er gelukkig wel consistent in geweest), en heeft ze als highway = footway getagd, terwijl dat helemaal niet nodig was. Ik gok overigens dat (doordat de kleur vrij dicht aanleunt bij

Re: [Talk-GB] Anglican churches

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) via Talk-GB
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 20:07, Donald Noble wrote: > Forgive me if I've missed it somewhere, but what do the different colours > represent on the nameless places of worship page? It's not documented anywhere at the moment, but the different coloured markers on the "nameless" maps at e.g.

[Talk-de] Überholverbot Fahrrad und andere Zweiräder

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Markus
Es gibt ein neues Überholverbot, aber noch kein tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE_talk:Key:overtaking#Überholverbot Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
Like it or not, in the UK addresses are defined by Royal Mail. They're introduced the concept of a "postal town", and this is one of the few common elements that each address must always have. Once you accept that the Post Town is intended to be a nearby significant place (to help with delivery

Re: [OSM-talk] Making GPS tracks in Android

2020-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole
Non-open apps will typically use googles play services fused location provider, which as the name implies doesn't just use GNSS data. For generating tracks it is unsuitable in any case so a pure tracker is unlikely going to use it. Simon Am 21.12.2020 um 01:02 schrieb Alan Mackie: I have