Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread James Livingston
On Wednesday, December 09, 2009, at 03:25PM, "Chris Barham" wrote: > BP allows free download of GPS data for their Australian service stations. Has anyone asked any of the other companies yet? If not, I'll send some emails about: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx http:/

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread Arie Paap
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM, John Smith wrote: > > All 1,381 locations have been uploaded, there was a few more > duplicates I missed before but these have been removed as well. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3340910 > > Bound to be some duplicates that already exist in the

[talk-au] National Public Toilet Map released under restrictive licence

2009-12-10 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
The long awaited National Public Toilet Map has been released in XML (but not under CC-BY like many reports recommended) @ http://data.australia.gov.au/610 Instead, it's a click through licence that amongst other Proprietary terms requires anybody with database access to accept these terms again (

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/11 Andrew Laughton : > Sorry for not being more active. > Yes, Steve is right, my not so obvious point was that any way would > need to be broken to add extra data. > Might be that a closed way is not a loop, which is what I thought it was. > Possibly you could define a closed way for me.

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Andrew Laughton
2009/12/10 John Smith : > 2009/12/11 Steve Bennett : >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM, John Smith >> wrote: >>> I realise this, but what does that have to do with speed limits? >> >> If a road has different speed limits, you'd need to break it up into >> different ways, in order to be able to

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Emilie Laffray wrote: > Also do we need to include tags when there is nothing present. I think the > basic case is that those services are not present. Including them only when > they are present would make more sense in my view and would not take as much > space i

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/12/10 John Smith > 2009/12/10 Steve Bennett : > >>[26] => ATM > >> > > > > You could add a separate (or same?) amenity=atm (or whatever it is) > point? > > I added > > > > > > > > > > Also if people have better suggestions for tag names I'm happy to > update the file, just the be

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/12/10 John Smith > 2009/12/10 Steve Bennett : > >>[26] => ATM > >> > > > > You could add a separate (or same?) amenity=atm (or whatever it is) > point? > > I added > > > > > > > > > > What about http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm%3Dyes for the ATM? Emilie Laffray ___

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/11 Steve Bennett : > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM, John Smith > wrote: >> I realise this, but what does that have to do with speed limits? > > If a road has different speed limits, you'd need to break it up into > different ways, in order to be able to tag each way correctly. This to

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM, John Smith wrote: > I realise this, but what does that have to do with speed limits? If a road has different speed limits, you'd need to break it up into different ways, in order to be able to tag each way correctly. Steve __

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/10 Steve Bennett : > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, John Smith > wrote: >> >> Or did I miss your point/question? >> > > I think the point was, the record was for the largest single unbroken way, > which can only really be achieved by crappy data - relatively few points, > relatively lit

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, John Smith wrote: > Or did I miss your point/question? > > I think the point was, the record was for the largest single unbroken way, which can only really be achieved by crappy data - relatively few points, relatively little information. So we're unlikely to brea

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/10 Andrew Laughton : > 2009/12/10 John Smith : >> 2009/12/10 Andrew Laughton : >>> Part of the trouble is, it all needs to have the same speed limit, the >>> same road surface, the same name, the same width etc. >> >> U huh? >> > > Every time something changes, the way needs to be split

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
All 1,381 locations have been uploaded, there was a few more duplicates I missed before but these have been removed as well. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3340910 Bound to be some duplicates that already exist in the system, but most will need to be moved in any case because the g

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Andrew Laughton
2009/12/10 John Smith : > 2009/12/10 Andrew Laughton : >> Part of the trouble is, it all needs to have the same speed limit, the >> same road surface, the same name, the same width etc. > > U huh? > Every time something changes, the way needs to be split, or am I making a bad assumption ? ___

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/10 Andrew Laughton : > Part of the trouble is, it all needs to have the same speed limit, the > same road surface, the same name, the same width etc. U huh? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Andrew Laughton
2009/12/10 John Smith : > 2009/12/10 James Livingston : >> The problem is that a lot of our big stuff is broken up into multiple ways >> due to being too accurate and so having >2000 nodes. The largest thing I can >> think of with not too complicated edges is the Woomera Prohibited Area, >> some

[talk-au] Brisbane Mapping Meetup next Wednesday Evening

2009-12-10 Thread David Dean
All are welcome: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brisbane/Mapping_Parties/2009-12 - David -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Brisbane-Mapping-Meetup-next-Wednesday-Evening-tp26725699p26725699.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - Australian Talk mailing list archive at Nabb

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread John Smith
2009/12/10 James Livingston : > The problem is that a lot of our big stuff is broken up into multiple ways > due to being too accurate and so having >2000 nodes. The largest thing I can > think of with not too complicated edges is the Woomera Prohibited Area, > somewhere around 13km iirc. I

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread James Livingston
On 10/12/2009, at 6:57 PM, Liz wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> ... the excellent Philippines mapping team who managed to create one >> single closed way enclosing an area of roughly 300 thousand square >> kilometres! >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=32126765 >> >> The

Re: [talk-au] Blanchetown

2009-12-10 Thread Nick Hocking
OK - my plan for our Sturt Highway, virtual mapping party is to concentrate on Renmark. Only a small part of it has been surveyed and so, on the way over, I'll stay overnight and see how much I can get done. Then on the way back to Canberra I'll go back that way again and do a bit more and also ho

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread Liz
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: > ... the excellent Philippines mapping team who managed to create one > single closed way enclosing an area of roughly 300 thousand square > kilometres! > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=32126765 > > The runner-up is a place in Sarah Palin Land, > > ht

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread Liz
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM, John Smith wrote: > > The 2 BP's along the Bruce Highway north of Brisbane aren't located > > properly either, it looks like they've simply used address to geo > > lookups and when the addresses are specific they co-ords