Re: [talk-au] Incorrectly expanding abbreviations

2010-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, John Smith wrote: On 11 March 2010 05:40, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=5505 Thanks for saving me the trip, so on their signs it looks like 'st.george' I wouldn't promise that I have tagged that branch correctly -- English

[talk-au] Nearmap released over a northern Victoria

2010-03-11 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Have been anticipating this for a few weeks and finally it has arrived. Nearmap imagery now covers a fair portion of Northern Victoria. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] No Road

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On a recent trip, I twice came across roads marked No Road. Anyone know what this means? I rode down both of them, and was rewarded by really interesting, very rough tracks that fortunately did connect up with the road network again. Are they former roads, no longer publicly maintained? How would

[talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Franc Carter
Hi, I use to tag traffic signals at the intersect of the roads, however with NearMap I can see that for complex intersections this does not work as well as I would like, three things I can see to do are:- 1. tag at the intersecttion of roads 2. tag at the location of the signals 3. either (1) or

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Luke Woolley
Personally, since NearMap became available, i've been placing traffic light tags at every thick white stop line at the intersection, which means for a standard intersection, there are 4 traffic light nodes. On 11/03/2010, at 11:50 PM, Franc Carter wrote: Hi, I use to tag traffic signals at

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread John Henderson
On 11/03/10 23:55, Luke Woolley wrote: Personally, since NearMap became available, i've been placing traffic light tags at every thick white stop line at the intersection, which means for a standard intersection, there are 4 traffic light nodes. This is exactly what I've been doing too,

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, since NearMap became available, i've been placing traffic light tags at every thick white stop line at the intersection, which means for a standard intersection, there are 4 traffic light nodes. What's the

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread John Henderson
On 12/03/10 08:39, Steve Bennett wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Luke Woolleylswool...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, since NearMap became available, i've been placing traffic light tags at every thick white stop line at the intersection, which means for a standard intersection,

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 23:50 +1100, Franc Carter wrote: Hi, I use to tag traffic signals at the intersect of the roads, however with NearMap I can see that for complex intersections this does not work as well as I would like, three things I can see to do are:- 1. tag at the intersecttion

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: The benefit is in greater accuracy and completeness.  If we can do better than commercial street directories, then why not? At the cost of managing that extra information. So far, I haven't seen much evidence that we have

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 09:52 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: Put it this way: how would you render a single circle for any intersection that has a traffic light? That is, if there are traffic light nodes at one intersection, you still only want to render one circle. It's a pretty obvious use case.

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:43 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: From a routing perspective, its more useful to have the information on the road intersection.  While it might render nicer if you put objects geographically where they are (separated from the road), from a routing

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread John Henderson
On 12/03/10 09:52, Steve Bennett wrote: At the cost of managing that extra information. So far, I haven't seen much evidence that we have ways of aggregating excess information into more manageable chunks. Put it this way: how would you render a single circle for any intersection that has a

[talk-au] Where do national/state park boundaries come from?

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, I notice that we have some national park boundaries, but not all. Anyone know where they come from? Are there any usable sources of data? I can't see that attempting to find the boundaries by driving/walking around the park would be very fruitful. Steve

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:21 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Other than de-cluttering (which tends to be done automatically anyway) I'm not sure why you'd want to render only one set of lights if there were more than that. Well, because to most people a set of lights covers a whole

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap released over a northern Victoria

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
Yeah, it's been available for a couple of weeks now - plenty of work for us to do. Pity there's such a large gap between Bendigo and Geelong - that's one of my favourite areas of Victoria. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: Have been anticipating

Re: [talk-au] Where do national/state park boundaries come from?

2010-03-11 Thread Jim Croft
try http://www.protectedplanet.net/ as a place to start... jim On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all,  I notice that we have some national park boundaries, but not all. Anyone know where they come from? Are there any usable sources of data? I can't

Re: [talk-au] Incorrectly expanding abbreviations

2010-03-11 Thread John Smith
I created a stub wiki entry on this topic. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Invalid_Abbreviation_Expansion ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ... So far, I haven't seen much evidence that we have ways of aggregating excess information into more manageable chunks. As others have already suggested: we need relations. There's already proposals semi-underway

Re: [talk-au] Where do national/state park boundaries come from?

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: try http://www.protectedplanet.net/ as a place to start... I couldn't find any statement about licensing there. To clarify, my question is not how do I find NP boundaries - that's easy, there are maps on parkweb.vic.gov.au

[talk-au] Where do national/state park boundaries come from?

2010-03-11 Thread Alex Lum
National and state park boundaries for Victoria (from the Department of Sustainability and Environment's Vicmap Lite package) were released under a CC - Attribution 2.5 Australia licence earlier this year. You can download the polygon data as a KMZ file here: