Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread John Henderson
On 01/12/11 19:15, Andrew Harvey wrote: Deleted by user: cc_cleaner in changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9915617 I found this by looking at this area in the owl viewer: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/map Thanks Andrew. I wasn't aware of that facility. It

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/12/2011, at 6:15 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Lake Cargelligo township shows mapped streets at this zoom level: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.3081lon=146.3792zoom=12layers=M but disappears as you zoom in from

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread John Henderson
On 01/12/11 22:34, Mark Pulley wrote: User cc-cleaner? I've had a quick look at some of the changesets, and they all seem to be just deleting things. I have a suspicion that the things being deleted are by users who haven't agreed to the new license, but I didn't think we were up to this stage

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:48 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I saw the same relationship with Firefishy (from South Africa) and went to bed puzzling about the coincidence.  Firefishy was adding in a little data within minutes of cc-cleaner's massive deletes. I woke up a couple of

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread Grant Slater
On 1 December 2011 13:48, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 01/12/11 22:34, Mark Pulley wrote: User cc-cleaner? I've had a quick look at some of the changesets, and they all seem to be just deleting things. I have a suspicion that the things being deleted are by users who haven't

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread John Henderson
On 02/12/11 01:11, Grant Slater wrote: I have nothing to do with the cc_cleaner user's deletes/edits. I often watch OSM edits using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LiveMapViewer and noticed the deletes of mostly DrLizAU's contributions. I suspected DrLizAU was removing her own contributions,

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread John Henderson
On 02/12/11 01:11, Grant Slater wrote: I often watch OSM edits using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LiveMapViewer and noticed the deletes of mostly DrLizAU's contributions. I suspected DrLizAU was removing her own contributions, but cannot back this up. DrLizAU's ethical standards are

Re: [talk-au] A way to go

2011-12-01 Thread Mark Pulley
I've been thinking for a while about the best way to remove CC-BY-SA-only data when the time comes. As already noted, some people have started already by deleting large areas of data and re-adding from bing (losing all the tags) - which at best may be unnecessary, and at present (as no date has

Re: [talk-au] A way to go

2011-12-01 Thread John Henderson
On 02/12/11 09:00, Richard Weait wrote: Deleting tainted data and remapping by local mappers is far superior to waiting until March 31 and running a script. So removing data from decliners and remapping it, and reaching out to those who haven't yet responded is valid and valuable. Thanks for

Re: [talk-au] A way to go

2011-12-01 Thread Andrew Laughton
On 2 December 2011 07:20, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 02/12/11 09:00, Richard Weait wrote: Deleting tainted data and remapping by local mappers is far superior to waiting until March 31 and running a script. So removing data from decliners and remapping it, and reaching out

Re: [talk-au] A way to go and missing towns

2011-12-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:09 PM, El Segundo Can't win el_segundo_cant_...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Late to the conversation but.. First up, from people have said, what cc-cleaner is doing is shocking vandalism, whether they intend it or not. I'm disappointed by deletions without remapping. One

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, I don't believe that it is possible to start remapping in Australia until the maxspeed bots are removed (from the database and also all histories) without affecting any other edits to those ways. Or

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-01 Thread Nick Hocking
Richard wroteHi Nick, I see several approaches available here: - ask the bot owner to accept - revert the bot work - ask for help reverting (typically others in the community or DWG) - argue convincingly on legal talk that the maxspeed bot and bots in general don't have rights to decline

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-01 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. In general I think the maxspeed edits were very useful, in terms of how they help routing. I wouldn't want to lose them. AFAIK the edits were not made by a bot login though. The content of these edits is in the public domain (I.e. the default residential speed limit in Australia) and these

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-01 Thread Nick Hocking
Ben wrote The content of these edits is in the public domain (I.e. the default residential speed limit in Australia) and these edits could be re-edited by an actual bot. Given that these edits are easy to identify, and the large number of ways, this might be a useful exercise. It would give us a

[talk-au] Thoughts on co-ordinating re-mapping

2011-12-01 Thread El Segundo Can't win
It would be my guess that Australia has the highest non-CT compliant data to active mapper ratio in the world, even if we ignore the ABS2006 import. I also reckon it's likely that there's a lot of people in other countries that would be willing to help out.   I would also guess that most

Re: [talk-au] Thoughts on co-ordinating re-mapping

2011-12-01 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
There are already systems written specifically for OSM to do this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager https://github.com/tlpinney/osmtask/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org