Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-07 Thread David Bannon
Hello Li what happens when a track is tagged with 4wd_only=yes and grade=6? Technically I'd see no issue having both those key combos present. In practice not good in that one must be wrong but that won't upset OSM. In the mainstream maps, the way should be rendered according to grade6. The

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-07 Thread Li Xia
Hi David, Here is an example of why the grading combined with 4WD_only tags may not work in conjunction in rendering. let's say all 4WD tracks are rendered using dotted lines (very common on raster maps and widely adopted). What happens when it already 4wd_only=yes but it's also tagged as

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-07 Thread David Bannon
Hi Li, I still don't see a problem. Firstly, I am not aware of any publicly visible map that uses the 4wd_Only tag. Maybe I am wrong, can you point me to one ? But even if there is, and it renderes as you say, then its still OK really. We'd see a dotted line and 4wd Recommended appended to the

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-07 Thread Steer
So, Ian Sergeant has presented reasoning why we should not pursue more complicated schemes for applying traffic lights to intersections of dual carriageways - fair enough. This brings me back to the incident that triggered me to start this thread: there are several intersections of dual

[talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread wil ly
Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 07/11/12 23:21, Steer wrote: So, Ian Sergeant has presented reasoning why we should not pursue more complicated schemes for applying traffic lights to intersections of dual carriageways -- fair enough. That is not quite what I said. I'd be happy to see a more detailed schema that is

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread David Bannon
Yep, good idea Wil. I don't see anything obvious in Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features you really have two choices, define your own or start a campaign to define a suitable key. First is easier, second will do a heap better job as if most people do it the same way, its

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Sergeant
Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of them around, and this is documented on AU tagging guidelines page, I think.. Ian. On 8 November 2012 08:47, David Bannon

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread Ben Kelley
Agreed. What Ian says. Use a route relation. - Ben. On Nov 8, 2012 9:18 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread David Bannon
Ian, I don't think it (route relations for eg scenic routes) is doc'ed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Or not that I can find. Sounds like a good approach, should it be on the above page so people can be suitably inspired ? David On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 09:17

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread Russell Edwards
I guess for copyright reasons you would actually need to go and read the street signs instead of tagging out of a copyrighted book or file? Russell On 2012-11-08 00:02, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 8 November 2012 11:06, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Ian, I don't think it (route relations for eg scenic routes) is doc'ed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Or not that I can find. Sounds like a good approach, should it be on the above

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Thread wil ly
Hi guys, I have discovered, finally, a couple of resources for tourist drives (as indicated by numbered brown signs). 1. DERM's physical roads dataset dated 28/9/2010 has a TOURNUM field, but this only seems to contain a few tourist drives: 1, 5, 8, 9, 10, 16, 22, 23, 42, 43, 99, LA and z (the