Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Thread Nathan Van Der Meulen
You're not going to win any way you change the route references. On the ground, around the Tuggerah Interchange alone are references to Nat Route 1, M1, Pacific Motorway etc. Note that the freeway is referenced as M1 from Wyong Rd (B74) but on the freeway it's still NR1. B74 only seems to be

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Thread Ben Johnson
I took a look there last weekend. As you say... inconsistencies everywhere. Northbound all are M1 with B74, and there's even a distance reassurance sign (not interchange-related) showing distances to Brisbane, titled M1 Pacific Mwy which I was surprised to see. Southbound all are NR1 with B74.

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, I'm surprised you couldn't find some F3 signs there as well! In any event, we can.. 1. Ignore the new routes until they are completed. Then re-reference the road. 2. As soon as the route is confirmed and there are some signs, re-reference the road 3. Adopt some new schema that allows us to

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. The new routes are supposed to be complete by the end of this year. I know it takes me a while to get around to fixing something on OSM. Perhaps if you are keen then approach 2 is OK (and signage will catch up eventually). If you are lazy then 1 is the default. :) - Ben Kelley. On 10

Re: [talk-au] Gates and access

2013-05-09 Thread Li Xia
Hi Ian, thanks for the info. My company is running a program to encourage 4wd and outdoor enthusiasts to contribute to OSM data. Access to track and trails is very important for outdoor activities so we just want to make sure our recommendations are in line with OSM. Looks like it's all good

Re: [talk-au] Major 4WD tracks

2013-05-09 Thread Steve Bennett
Can you give examples of major 4WD tracks? Do you mean the 4WD route classification scheme? (I've seen some 4WD tracks near Mt Stirling that had official signage, difficulty ratings etc). Probably you'd use a relation like: type=route route=4wd network=??? name=... But I haven't done any

Re: [talk-au] Major 4WD tracks

2013-05-09 Thread David
Li, do you mean to label specific 4wd tracks or to aggregate tracks together into a route ? The former is, somewhat documented at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Roads_Tagging, while not widely agreed to, even here in Oz, no one has taken exception and it seems to be acceptable.

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

2013-05-09 Thread David
Kristy, you have spotted the problem, no clear acceptance of any one standard when it comes to 4wd tracks. And while its being done a number of different ways (or not done at all) we have little chance of getting the rendering people to listen to us. In western Europe, little interest,