Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

2022-02-08 Thread osm.talk-au
The source tag should directly name the exact tag for which it specifies the source, so it should be: source:hiking_scale:awtgs= From: Ian Steer Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:19 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS) With

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, fellas! It's not an utterly stupid idea then! On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 14:46, Brendan Barnes wrote: > > If a road has definitive closure dates we might be able to utilise > opening_hours. I tried to start something similar on Victorian Alps > seasonal road closures, for example >

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

2022-02-08 Thread Ian Steer
>> I prefer hiking_scale:awtgs= as you know that it is a hiking scale .. >> even if you don't know what awtgs is. >> >Fair comment. > >> Routes are a different problem while the worst one could be >> included .. what happens if/when things change? Possibly better to leave it off?

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Brendan Barnes
Absolutely Steva. Better routers make better decisions. But yeah Graeme, my preference would be a router to read live GeoJSON sources, for the most accurate "what's happening on the ground right now" when considering traffic hazards. This is (relatively) easier for websites and smartphone apps

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread stevea
On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:08 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Do routers "read" such things as flood-prone, intermittent & seasonal? My "quick, off-the-cuff" answer would be: "better routers SHOULD." The real answer is very much "check your particular router."

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 14:02, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Some jurisdictions do publish live traffic updates in GeoJSON, examples: > >- https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/live-traffic-hazards >- > >

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 13:35, Michael Collinson wrote: > We have a reasonable if not perfect tagging system for a router to assess > (and make assumptions) about the quality of a road for various types of > vehicle in BEST CASE conditions. motorway versus track, tracktype, asphalt > versus

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Brendan Barnes
Some jurisdictions do publish live traffic updates in GeoJSON, examples: - https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/live-traffic-hazards - https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/131940-traffic-and-travel-information-geojson-api Note a lot of these API feeds are licenced CC-BY, so

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Michael Collinson
We have a reasonable if not perfect tagging system for a router to assess (and make assumptions) about the quality of a road for various types of vehicle in BEST CASEĀ  conditions. motorway versus track, tracktype, asphalt versus gravel being the main ones. From a router point of view it would

[talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Reading this article earlier: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-08/google-maps-to-fix-routes-trapped-travellers-queensland/100805884 So what's the best way to avoid the same issues? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

2022-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 16:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I prefer hiking_scale:awtgs= as you know that it is a hiking scale .. even > if you don't know what awtgs is. > Fair comment. > Routes are a different problem while the worst one could be included > .. what happens