Re: [talk-au] admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?

2022-04-08 Thread stevea
Speaking from personal experience as only one participant over many years (between say, 2012 with some agreement in 2015 and some refinement 2020) in a big country with a lot of states and dozens of their idiosyncrasies, getting admin_level values "right" can be a true, multi-year-long wrangle

Re: [talk-au] admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?

2022-04-08 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 8/4/22 21:57, Dian Ågesson wrote: Hey Andrew, I don’t believe anything was decided with regards to ACT districts. However, after looking into the details I don’t think they actually fit in the administration boundary set up at all; seems closer to parishes/counties on other states than a

Re: [talk-au] Queensland railway stations

2022-04-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Richard, we'll check them out. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 02:29, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Hi folks, > > There appear to be a _lot_ of bogus rail stations on the map in Queensland: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-21.0650/148.8397=T >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Stéphane Guillou via Talk-au
I am not local, but just my two cents: I agree with Andrew that such specific state-wide rules (or exceptions to the rules) should be tagged as a single regional default, and highway features should have generic tags (unless there are relevant signage and routes, obviously), especially since

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

2022-04-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 18:44, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just try things out, control+Z to undo the last command .. you can even > press it a few times to go back a bit further. > Oh yes, ctrl+Z has had lot's of use! :-) Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

2022-04-08 Thread stevea
To be sure everyone reading knows, JOSM's buffer has amazing undo capacity, I believe "all the way back to the beginning of the session." And there's the fact you can edit, edit, play with things all day and night long, then you simply do not upload to the OSM servers (and into the fabric of

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
> (Personally I do have a whole bunch of country, state and even > county-specific adaptions for cycle.travel's routing, but I'm very aware > that I'm the outlier. And I've never even heard of "def:*" tags.) > For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316593 has

Re: [talk-au] admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?

2022-04-08 Thread Dian Ågesson
Hey Andrew, I don't believe anything was decided with regards to ACT districts. However, after looking into the details I don't think they actually fit in the administration boundary set up at all; seems closer to parishes/counties on other states than a "council" or locality. Dian On

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Harvey wrote: > Well your router would need to look up the specific default whether > that's something in the routing engine configuration, pulled from > the OSM wiki, or pulled from the Victoria state relation def:* tags. With the best will in the world, that's not going to happen. I can

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/04/2022 06:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just have no bicycle tag and leave it to data

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

2022-04-08 Thread Warin
The complete download for the coastline of Australia takes ages. The India Pacific train line takes a little less. That is why only 'parts of interest' are downloads automatically - save time and load on the servers. The great thing about computers is you can play with them, provided you

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria was HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Warin
I am not across the arguments, nor am I local so I cannot asses them. So I will not hazard a 'guess'. Highway=path/footway/sidewalk can all have the same tags so the differences are perceptions as to what the main tag is. That perception is up to the render not the tag nor the mapper. When I

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

2022-04-08 Thread Luke Stewart
Hi Graeme, Having downloaded the full relation, the boundary is completely closed and there is nothing wrong with it. It's simply a warning to say that JOSM has not downloaded the whole relation. Unless you right-click > Download members, JOSM only has the tags of the relation and the members