Re: [talk-au] Traffic Signals

2010-03-11 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 23:50 +1100, Franc Carter wrote: > Hi, > > I use to tag traffic signals at the intersect of the roads, however > with NearMap I can see that for complex intersections this does not > work as well as I would like, three things I can see to do are:- > > 1. tag at the intersect

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-01 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 08:25 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:19 AM, John Smith wrote: > > I've moved the previous files and all the rest of the files Mike converted > > here: > > > > http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/data.vic.gov.au/ > > Can you please explain if/how you wou

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-01 Thread David Murn
Just out of interest, do these railway stations and airports, also come with a street address? What percentage of these items youre importing, are you bothering to check, 1 or 2? 1 or 2% 50%? None? Id be pretty sure that almost all airports and train stations are already in the database, and t

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-02-27 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 10:37 +1000, John Smith wrote: > Actually there is some kmz files, does anyone know the easiest way to > import this into OSM format or as a layer in JOSM? In Linux, gpsbabel is your friend. If youre in windows, well, good luck. Can you please make sure that if youre going

Re: [talk-au] Layers for landuse (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-23 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:16 +1100, Luke Woolley wrote: > Mainly because I normally give landuses a -3 layer and for things that > sit just above or directly on the ground I give the next layer up. > Probably doesn't need it, but it will do no harm being there. Until someone decides to map undergro

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 20:43 +1100, Liz wrote: > > I'm concerned about marking what are actual terrorist targets (not the media > frenzy type terrorists who are at airports) > telephone exchange, communications tower, power lines > things not usually well mapped in commercial offerings but which

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:20 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > Personally I don't think it's reasonable to map anything on a > residential property, particularly not anything that can't be seen > from the street. Because, people in the air could be helped by being able to reference pools, power lines

Re: [talk-au] Pools (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 19:57 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 22 February 2010 19:28, David Murn wrote: > > Ive always had an interest in marking these, but also understand the > > privacy issue. > > I'm still having problems seeing how OSM would make any privacy issues &g

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 19:10 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 22 February 2010 19:07, David Murn wrote: > > A water supply company could be interested to know how many pools are in > > an area to know what areas might have higher demand during filling > > season. But, a pool cle

Re: [talk-au] Pools (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:45 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 22 February 2010 13:28, David Murn wrote: > > Ive been wondering about the idea of mapping private pools in the same > > way as private tennis courts have been marked, but been worried about > > some issues, particula

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 18:20 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 22 February 2010 17:56, Roy Wallace wrote: > > I'm not sure but being traced and annotated makes it much > > *easier* for people to retrieve information about your private > > property (e.g. through an API call). > > Yes, I can rea

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-21 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 20:43 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > > On 21 February 2010 18:53, Craig Feuerherdt > wrote: > > > Things like this make me wonder about society. Once upon a time we would > > > have shared our resources or better still gone down to the local ten

Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions

2010-02-19 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 05:16 +1100, John Henderson wrote: > David Murn wrote: > > > Ive laid out powerlines across most of the ACT and Queanbeyan, so feel > > free to do the line from the wind farm to the Queanbeyan sub-station. > > As well as the ways (power=line), sho

Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions

2010-02-18 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 23:02 +1100, Nick Hocking wrote: > John Henderson wrote: > > "Well I've done the Cullerin wind farm nearby" Ive laid out powerlines across most of the ACT and Queanbeyan, so feel free to do the line from the wind farm to the Queanbeyan sub-station. > That looks great!. I

Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions

2010-02-16 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 02:36 +0800, Andrew Laughton wrote: > recycling:excrement=yes > not really relevant it is not really recycling. Why not? Unless you put the waste into a sealed container and bury it in the ground, almost all effluent is partially recycled, eg sewage/septic systems. > ameni

Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions

2010-02-16 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 21:41 +1100, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > > On 16 February 2010 20:04, Liz wrote: > > > anyone decided how to tag a grey water or effluent dump? > > > > amenity=waste_disposal ? > > > not clear that it is effluent being disposed of > i p

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-16 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 17:32 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Liz wrote: > > > >> Perhaps admin boundaries need to be "locked" from editing until people > >> have a certain amount of mapping under their belt and/or ask for the > >> ability to add/edit/delete admin bounda

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-10 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 09:45 +1000, John Smith wrote: > The majority of all OSM data has identifiable authors. Doesnt all content have an identifiable author, or at least copyright holder? Unless its computer generated that is. > Also there is debate over the creativity, the vector information m

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-10 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 00:20 +1100, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:48 AM, John Smith wrote: > > On 9 February 2010 10:37, David Murn wrote: > > Except copyright law in Australia since the IceTV ruling is unlikely > > to cover simple databases

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-10 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 23:44 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 8 February 2010 21:48, Richard Colless wrote: > > This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV > > format: > > http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx > > All 1817 points were added to the dat

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 10:48 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 9 February 2010 10:37, David Murn wrote: > > Thats probably a good thing. 'skills' also includes knowing how the OSM > > licence works, and clicking on the 'terms of use' link on the page you > &g

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 22:48 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: > This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in > CSV format: > http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx > > Anyone care to add it to the database? That one's outside my skills at > this stage. That

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 20:25 +1100, Ben Kelley wrote: > I can't help wondering if this chain got off the original topic at > some point... The topic was someone using OSM maps on his GPS during a visit to Canberra, and having difficulty finding a service station that would take his wallet full of f

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 13:21 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 8 February 2010 13:16, David Murn wrote: > > Thats fine if youre looking for a place that accepts woolworths cards, > > but what about if you have a caltex or shell card and want to search for > > someone who'll t

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 23:06 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: > But that probably won't show up when you do a waypoint search - it > certainly won't on my Etrex. So the best coding is using "name=Coles > Express" or "name=Woolworths discount" (or whatever the Woolies ones > are called). That show up as

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 15:43 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 7 February 2010 15:33, David Murn wrote: > > They have 4c coles voucher plus 4c instore, however last time I > > travelled past they didnt pass on the ethanol rebate. You can spot > > those who pass on the ethanol r

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 12:40 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 7 February 2010 12:31, David Murn wrote: > > Well, some of them allow for say 4c if you have a docket and another 4c > > if you purchase items instore, so maybe fuel:instore_discount=yes > > Which most of the time due

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 11:29 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 7 February 2010 08:21, Steve Bennett wrote: > > Suggestion: > > fuel:woolworths_discount=yes > > fuel:coles_discount=yes > > Except none of them allow you to use multiple offers... Well, some of them allow for say 4c if you have a docket

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 21:27 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > > I've just made a bulk upload of Coles Express locations from their website: > > > > http://www.colesexpress.com.au/store-locator/gps-poi.aspx > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3803645 > >

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 08:50 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 5 February 2010 23:42, David Murn wrote: > > Maybe we should have some sort of fuel:discount tag? > > fuel:shopper_docket=yes ? > > discount is too ambiguous, discount for what? fuel:discount=woolworths Alte

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 16:01 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, wrote: > > > > Can we document on the wiki which is Operator and which is Name > > (for Australia) because I never found it to make sense > > +1. e.g. for Woolworths Caltex petrol, is it Woolworths or Caltex?

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread David Murn
Something similar happened in my region recently, someone new to josm managed to turn a park around 100m across into a 2km diameter circle, and mangled the ways nearby. A quick email to the user revealed he was new to josm and wasnt even aware of what he had done. Fortunately the mess was easily

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-29 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 22:06 +1100, Andy Botting wrote: > I've dabbled with a few little tram projects over the last couple of > years, so I'm interested in the state of the tram information for > Melbourne. > > I've noticed that the stops in OSM are a little inconsistent and > incomplete, so I'd

Re: [talk-au] For the mapper with too much money who wants it all...

2010-01-22 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 02:33 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, Emilie Laffray wrote: > > If you want a relatively cheap device for geotagging, there are the Jobo > > photogps devices and some from DXG. You put them in the hotshoe of a > > camera. It has been out for some time. For reverse g

[talk-au] For the mapper with too much money who wants it all...

2010-01-22 Thread David Murn
Just stumbled across this nifty little device.. http://gizmodo.com/5442073/sonys-gps+-and-compass +enabled-camera-knows-where-you-photograph For US$400 you get a full HD resolution camera, which can geotag your photos with both GPS coordinates and compass direction. Pity about the included googl

Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-22 Thread David Murn
My thoughts are the same as Liz. The number of lanes should be the number available for each direction. If the road has a lanes= tag and a oneway=yes tag, then it should be the total number for the way. David On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 18:07 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: > This is another one of those c

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-20 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 16:53 +1100, John Henderson wrote: > How about tagging boat ramps as: > > highway=service > service=boat_ramp > > I think a slipway is different from a boat ramp. I know a slipway as a > track (perhaps with rollers) for launching boats and for winching them > ashore for re

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-20 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 13:51 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: > 2010/1/21 David Murn : > > Also, from the wiki for 'service': > > "Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, > > campsite, industrial estate, business park, etc.. > > >

Re: [talk-au] JOSM on handheld device

2010-01-20 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 11:52 +1000, John Smith wrote: > 2010/1/20 David Murn : > > Well, the screen size isnt the issue. OziExplorer does the job great, > > however it uses its own proprietary formats for trace and POI files, > > which means I have to do a conversion to use

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-20 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 10:35 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Henderson wrote: > > Has anyone got a better suggestion for showing a boat ramp than > > extending a "highway=service" out into the water? The "leisure=slipway" > > tag is meant to apply to nodes, not

Re: [talk-au] JOSM on handheld device

2010-01-19 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:35 +1000, John Smith wrote: > 2010/1/20 David Murn : > > I figure I cant be the only person who wants to edit OSM from my GPS > > device, so Im hoping someone might have a few ideas for apps worth a > > play with, before I give up and look at writing

[talk-au] JOSM on handheld device

2010-01-19 Thread David Murn
Hello all, Having recently gotten my WinCE-based navman back from warranty repair, Ive gotten it back loaded with OziExplorer and the most recent mapnik maps, in order to help create traces of missing areas. My basic process involves driving around to capture the traces then bring the device home

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-19 Thread David Murn
Hi John, Ive been tagging a few boatramps lately, and your suggestion is basically exactly what Ive been doing, but I have also wondered if it is the best method, and had a few questions. Firstly, leisure=slipway works fine for most cases of boatramps, but some boatramps arent 'leisure', for exam

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - Survey War

2010-01-19 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 22:03 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: > > John Henderson wrote > > > > "I've been trying to document the local Bicentennial National Trail" > > > > I think that mapping this trail is a *massively* usefull thing for OSM. > > As far as I can tell,

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-15 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 06:56 +1000, John Smith wrote: > 2010/1/14 Jim Croft : > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response > > http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ > > I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti...

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: > Why? Just because you happen to live in a state where that happens to > be the case, doesn't mean I do. If I tagged a footpath, I would expect > bikes ARE allowed by default, because they are here. Setting defaults > for this is going to b

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread David Murn
One that amuses me often, is between Canberra and Batemans Bay. Theres a small rural street which is shown as 'Black Sally Lane' on both google, whereis and my Navman GPS, however OSM shows the name printed on the street sign, which is 'Black Sallee Lane'. David On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 23:41 +1100

Re: [talk-au] Mapping progress in Victoria

2010-01-04 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:24 +1100, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: > I have created a table summarising the length of roads by postcode. > The table compares the State Government data with OSM data (from > cloudmade). > I realise there will be anomalies in the table due to a range of > factors. The table

Re: [talk-au] How to tag winery cellar doors.

2010-01-04 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 13:35 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Liz wrote: > There are no industrial type tags at all - obviously no blue > collar types in OSM > > > More likely no use cases: can you really imagine driving along and > thinking "you know,

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 12:04 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: > > > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add > &g

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:42 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Murn > wrote: > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you > should add > an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add > > an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node > > (ie. bank, servo or chemist). >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread David Murn
According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node (ie. bank, servo or chemist). Also, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel describes details for labelling different fuel types. This was (

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