Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-23 Thread Nev Wedding
I have been using the LPI NSW Administrative Boundaries NPWS Reserve to enter the boundaries of each section of the Goobang National Park as I was recently there and recorded a few gps tracks as well. It seems to me that I am probably wasting my efforts just following around the rest of the

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-13 Thread Leon Kernan
Was just having a look at this imagery in around the Sydney CBD in Potlatch 2. It's such an improvement over Bing, no more towers obscuring all the roads! On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On 9 December 2015 at 02:22, Simon Poole

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-13 Thread Leon Kernan
Another fun one, they clearly took the imagery around Bathurst on the weekend of the Bathurst 1000 On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Leon Kernan wrote: > Was just having a look at this imagery in around the Sydney CBD in > Potlatch 2. > It's such an improvement over Bing, no

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-13 Thread Warin
I have made a diary entry about using the LPI Base Map to add road names in Sydney using JOSM .. applies elsewhere too. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Warin61/diary/37528 The base map is also usefull for National Park boundaries ... some of these are rather 'confused'. It does not help

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Thread Andrew Davidson
>Something is wrong with my mailing program... :-[ >I have just checked on the talk_au archive on the web ... >I am missing a few messages .. one of which makes Andrews' position >clear. Apologises to those concerned! It's not just your mail program, I'm finding that not all of the list

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 10 December 2015 at 11:23, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I want to make sure that we have solid legal foundations for this, and >> would like to run it by the legal-talk list first for advice. >> > > What is your position? > > You are uncertain of the legal use of the data, yet > you

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Thread Warin
On 7/12/2015 2:45 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: This conversation is quite scattered now but, Something is wrong with my mailing program... :-[ I have just checked on the talk_au archive on the web ... I am missing a few messages .. one of which makes Andrews' position clear. Apologises to those

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Thread Andrew Davidson
Attribution/New South Wales Government Data/FullLetter - OpenStreetMap Wiki |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Attribution/New South Wales Government Data/FullLetter - OpenStreetMap WikiReturn-Path: Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Thread Warin
On 7/12/2015 2:45 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: This conversation is quite scattered now but, Snip I want to make sure that we have solid legal foundations for this, and would like to run it by the legal-talk list first for advice. What is your position? You are uncertain of the legal

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Thread Simon Poole
May I suggest adding similar entries to https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other editors can make the imagery available too? Thanks Simon Am 08.12.2015 um 07:54 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > I've put together a JOSM Imagery Sources document at >

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 9 December 2015 at 02:22, Simon Poole wrote: > May I suggest adding similar entries to > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other > editors can make the imagery available too? Yes, I'll do that today. On 6 December 2015 at 11:49, Andrew Davidson

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 9 December 2015 at 02:22, Simon Poole wrote: > May I suggest adding similar entries to > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other > editors can make the imagery available too? Done https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index/pull/118

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've received a response from LPI, which is at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Government_Data. Based on it I believe this is sufficient for people to include data and derived data from LPI's CC BY 3.0 AU web services within OpenStreetMap. Such inclusion of data

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Thread Andrew Davidson
> Using the tile service is preferred since it will create less load on > their servers and is faster to access since the tiles are already > cached and we are just retrieving them as opposed to asking for > arbitrary boundary requests. Why do you suggest WMS in this case? I' guessing that

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've put together a JOSM Imagery Sources document at https://gist.github.com/andrewharvey/84959a3025d32ef6237c and added this to the list for JOSM at https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Australia. Next job is to translate this into JSON for https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index. On

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-07 Thread Warin
On 8/12/2015 3:14 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 8 December 2015 at 04:54, Paul Norman > wrote: When we're talking about source tags, we should use whatever is useful for mappers. In theory source date tags can be useful, but in practice

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-06 Thread Simon Poole
Andrew Sydney was mostly empty post-licence change (for reasons I will not go in to now) and lots of the roads were re-traced in an mad dash to patch things up. At the time there was some expectation that it wouldn't take all too much time for the street names to be fixed (given that Sydney is

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
This conversation is quite scattered now but, I've followed up with contact given in your letter (Diana Stewart) with my concerns and questions. Specifically I've asked: 1. what does the statement "Where specific licence terms (such as Creative > Commons) are applied to datasets, those licence

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread cleary
My thoughts in regard to issues raised today and a couple of additional thoughts about using NSW LPI data in OSM: 1. The requested acknowledgement, as specified by LPI, applies only to the information in the "Contributors" page of the wiki, not to the tags of each data item.  I think the

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread Warin
On 6/12/2015 9:16 AM, Nathanael Coyne wrote: Excellent news - can you please publish here the actual wording from LPI? Why not just view it on the OSMwiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Goverment_Data Note the request to have the date of retrieval marked in

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-05 Thread cam_daw
Wow, this is like an early xmas present :-D - I'm super-happy to get access to missing street names around Sydney for OSM. >QUESTION >How do I get this imagery into JOSM?! They have one access in javaGIS ... A >simple explanation ? In JOSM, go to: Edit --> Preferences, WMS TMS tab, in the

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
It's easier to go with the WMS versions by choosing add WMS and pointing at: http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/services/public/NSW_Imagery/MapServer/WMSServer?request=GetCapabilities=WMS for the aerial imagery.

[talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread cleary
I have approached the NSW Government and have received permission for OpenStreetMap to use specified data from Land and Property Information NSW. I have added the appropriate attribution in the Contributors page of the wiki under New South Wales Government data and it includes a link ("explicit

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread Nathanael Coyne
Excellent news - can you please publish here the actual wording from LPI? Nathanael Coyne www.purecaffeine.com Canberra, Australia 0431 698 580 On 6 December 2015 at 09:12, cleary wrote: > > I have approached the NSW Government and have received permission for > OpenStreetMap

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread cleary
The letter has been transcribed and can be accessed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Goverment_Data On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, at 09:16 AM, Nathanael Coyne wrote: > Excellent news - can you please publish here the actual wording > from LPI? > > > > Nathanael Coyne

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-05 Thread Warin
On 6/12/2015 11:32 AM, cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote: Wow, this is like an early xmas present :-D - I'm super-happy to get access to missing street names around Sydney for OSM. QUESTION How do I get this imagery into JOSM?! They have one access in javaGIS ... A simple explanation ? In JOSM, go

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
Rather ironically I'm about half a dozen suburbs from completing Sydney.  When I started other people had done about 25% of the suburbs and I carried on with their approach of using the existing OSM map features that corresponded to the boundaries which are mostly streets, property boundaries