Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Alex Kwiatkowski < alex.kwiatkow...@nearmap.com> wrote: > Which part is contradictory so a can give them a starting point. > "If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Alex Kwiatkowski
Hi John, Which part is contradictory so a can give them a starting point. Regards Alex Kwiatkowski Email: alex.kwiatkow...@nearmap.com Mobile: 0421 794 183 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread John Smith
2009/12/10 Alex Kwiatkowski : > I hope that clears it up for you guys and feel free to get in contact with > me if you have any other queries. You might want to get the legal dept. to sort out the contridictory clause about owning the data and what license you must license it under etc. _

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Alex Kwiatkowski
I've just got a response from our legal team and this is what they say. "We are always keen to clear up any uncertainties regarding derived works. Our requirement is that derived works are availlable to others, using a Creative Commons style license. In other words, we share the same approach as O

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Ben Last
I'm sure Alex is reading the list, but I am too :) If there are concerns with our license, we'll work to address them - a key goal of ours is to support OSM and that was a firm requirement when the license was drafted. Cheers Ben 2009/12/9 James Livingston > On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wall

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > "If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include > that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute > it to others under a Creative Commons licence." > > Does that not imply that the derived information may o

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: > Although. If CC-BY-SA isn't likely to stand in Australia for OSM > it isn't likely to stand for anyone else either If its good enough for the Au guvmint, who can afford lawyers, it is probably protective in Au. -- You have had a long-term stimulat

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread John Smith
2009/12/9 Liz : > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: >> Nearmap allows in their T&C's to derive data, the data is under the >> license of the person deriving it chooses to release it under. >> >> The bigger issue was the AU Govt data, but that has fixed it self >> since it was relicensed as cc-b

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread John Smith
2009/12/9 Roy Wallace : > Hmm...the following is from > http://www.nearmap.com/legal/community-licence.aspx: > > "If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include > that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute > it to others under a Creative Commons lic

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, John Smith wrote: > 2009/12/9 Roy Wallace : >> If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the >> legality of tracing from nearmap imagery? >> Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The >> License Change ha

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Liz
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: > Nearmap allows in their T&C's to derive data, the data is under the > license of the person deriving it chooses to release it under. > > The bigger issue was the AU Govt data, but that has fixed it self > since it was relicensed as cc-by from cc-by-sa but it

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread John Smith
2009/12/9 Roy Wallace : > If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the > legality of tracing from nearmap imagery? > Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The > License Change happens? > If so, what kind of contributions? Nearmap allo

[talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread Roy Wallace
If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the legality of tracing from nearmap imagery? Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The License Change happens? If so, what kind of contributions? _