Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-02-19 Thread Liz
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 19 February 2010 10:10, Roy Wallace wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Andy Botting wrote: > >> "The Director would however approve the release of the data provided > >> the usual terms of our licence agreement were in place. " > > > > They cl

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-02-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 February 2010 10:10, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Andy Botting wrote: >> >> "The Director would however approve the release of the data provided >> the usual terms of our licence agreement were in place. " > > They clearly just don't get it hey... Well they are awa

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-02-18 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Andy Botting wrote: > > "The Director would however approve the release of the data provided > the usual terms of our licence agreement were in place. " They clearly just don't get it hey... ___ Talk-au mailing list Tal

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Botting
Hi all, Just thought I'd update on this. >>  1. What sort of agreement do I need from Yarra Trams before this >> information can be uploaded into OSM? What have others done in the >> past? What can you do if they agree one day, then change their mind? > > Generally you should get some form, eithe

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 January 2010 19:36, Andy Botting wrote: > Before uploading them to OSM, I'd probably test them out on Google > Maps first as a sanity check. If you make an OSM file, you can open this in JOSM and check it against OSM data, and even Nearmap overlays etc... __

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-30 Thread Andy Botting
Hi David, > Im worried about a technique like that.  You plan to remove all existing > stops (whether survey'd or nearmapped or whatever) to be replaced by a > mass data set.  Just ask around how well that worked for the BP import > and how many nodes ended up doubled up, or in the wrong location?

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 January 2010 11:56, David Murn wrote: > Im worried about a technique like that. You plan to remove all existing > stops (whether survey'd or nearmapped or whatever) to be replaced by a > mass data set. Just ask around how well that worked for the BP import > and how many nodes ended up dou

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-29 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 22:06 +1100, Andy Botting wrote: > I've dabbled with a few little tram projects over the last couple of > years, so I'm interested in the state of the tram information for > Melbourne. > > I've noticed that the stops in OSM are a little inconsistent and > incomplete, so I'd

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-29 Thread Liz
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Andy Botting wrote: > I've noticed that the stops in OSM are a little inconsistent and > incomplete, so I'd like to get them fixed. > I was really impressed when I had to get the tram back to Preston. Couldn't remember how far it was on the way in, got out the freerunner, sta

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 08:36, Andy Botting wrote: > I think it's a fantastic initiative by the government to release it > data. Kinda gives me the impression that they're starting to 'get it', > and this information should be free. I don't know if they are finally getting it, or just keeping up with

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread Andy Botting
Hi John, > The vic police stations were released under a cc-by license so we > didn't need to contact anyone to import them. There has been a couple > of data sets imported from http://data.australia.gov.au I was more referring to the technical problem (OSM xml format, importing data) rather than

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 08:29, Andy Botting wrote: > When writing this email, I had the import of the Vic Police stations > in mind. I think this might be similar to what was done in that case. The vic police stations were released under a cc-by license so we didn't need to contact anyone to import th

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread Andy Botting
Hey Franc :) > Generally you should get some form, either by a published copyright > that is compatible with the OSM license, or a specific statement > allowing OSM to import the data under it's license, if the general > copyright is not compatible. I think the hard part might be just getting the

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread Franc Carter
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Andy Botting wrote: > Hi there freedom lovers, > > I've dabbled with a few little tram projects over the last couple of > years, so I'm interested in the state of the tram information for > Melbourne. > > I've noticed that the stops in OSM are a little inconsisten

[talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread Andy Botting
Hi there freedom lovers, I've dabbled with a few little tram projects over the last couple of years, so I'm interested in the state of the tram information for Melbourne. I've noticed that the stops in OSM are a little inconsistent and incomplete, so I'd like to get them fixed. Anyone on this li