On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes! we are overloading the cycle route to not simply mean this is a way
to get from A to B but also to mean a good way to cycle there.
So, yes, we are giving two meanings to the same tag. Yours is simply
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this one is an edge case. I know the sign Ian means, and in my
judgement it does not indicate a route.
Oh, can you elaborate?
I think the more common case (that is currently not well defined) is where
some
On 6 December 2012 19:17, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm all in favour of recording subjective information about the
rideability of individual streets - in fact there are several other
projects out there doing this already. I don't think misusing the LCN/RCN
tags is the right
Hey,
Just weighing in here.
Ben, you listed several tricky situations, and gave detailed definitions
of the situation on the ground. I suggest tagging according to what is on
the ground, rather than getting caught up in how to summarise all this nice
information in a single overarching tag. For
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Fundamentally, I think it is a continuous set of navigational signs that
should be the primary indicator of a bicycle route, preferably agreeing
with some documentation from the relevant authority.
Ok, great - we do
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Generally the case, but not always. My bicycle sign on Parramatta road
being my best example so I'm sticking with it. A cycle route down a narrow
three lane road, carrying trucks who'd soon as take you out as look at
On 04/12/12 15:59, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com
mailto:inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
We're heading towards a day when everybody will have a routing
application on their mobile device or accessible elsewhere. So
navigation is
Hi Ben,
Thanks very much for starting this conversation - yes, it's a messy one.
Mostly because the European (and particularly UK) concept of cycle route
hasn't really existed here. But it's still worth trying to fit into because
lots of tools (especially OpenCycleMap) do support that concept.
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On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
I take a simplistic approach to this. A road is a bicycle route if and
only if it has a bicycle lane (lanes if a two-way road).
Simple, but not very helpful IMHO. cycleway=lane already captures that
information. lcn=* and
On 4 December 2012 11:12, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
To me, a bicycle route is much more about navigability than desirability
for cycling. That is, when you follow a bicycle route, it should be easy
to follow - based on signs, or good external (and official) documentation.
Hi.
I think we should specify a little more what constitutes a cycle route on
the tagging guidelines.
Some background: For the cycle map layer you can tag any way as a local
cycle route (lcn=*), a regional cycle route (rcn=*) or a national cycle
route (ncn=*). The tag can be applied to the way,
On 02/12/12 09:10, Ben Kelley wrote:
Where it gets more complicated is when we start to think what kind
of marking we should expect to see on the ground before we say that
this is a cycle route in the OSM sense. The same applies when
deciding that some street is not really a cycle route.
I
I think what you say makes sense Ben, its pretty much the default OSM test, can
you see it on the ground ?
What's not so clear to me is what you hope to achieve. Do you want to attach
the (eg) lcn= to individual (qualifying) roads or bundle them together into
routes ? The latter makes more
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