Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-26 Thread forster
Dear list Im tired and muddled. I think Sebastian posted swapped the 2 issues when he posted, sorry if its my mistake Quoting fors...@ozonline.com.au: Hi Sebastian A quick reply now, its late, and maybe more considered tomorrow its tagged highway=track I can see no "access all=yes" so

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-26 Thread forster
Hi all, I see Sebastian has posted to the list now background to this: Way History: 679145843 about a year ago Sebastian had bicycle=no, highway=track as part of the DWG sanctioned revert I deleted the bicycle=no Hi Sebastian a bit more, If I wanted to add tags I would go on site have a look

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
The access tag doesn't really capture if it's private property or not. You can have private property which is open to the public, and you can have public lands closed to the public. So you can't really set the access tag just on the basis of it being private land as it all depends how it's signed

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-26 Thread forster
Hi Sebastian access=privateAccess is only with permission on an individual basis access=destinationTransit traffic forbidden access=permissive open to general traffic until such time as the owner revoke the permission My inclination is that if you are not sure, don't use the

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-25 Thread Sebastian Azagra Flores via Talk-au
In using the tag access=permissive, how does one verify that access has not been revoked by the owner? In one of the changesets in question, the site clearly private property (as it is a retirement village) I would have thought that access=private would have been a better tag to use in lieu of

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread forster
Hi I have left a changeset comment alerting him to the talk-au discussion. Tony On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 10:22, wrote: Then there are networks that are clearly signed indicating Transit traffic is forbidden. These are the only places I would use the access=destination tag. Have I got it

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 10:22, wrote: > Then there are networks that are clearly signed indicating Transit > traffic is forbidden. These are the only places I would use the > access=destination tag. > > Have I got it right? Right enough to revert any tagging that does not > conform? > See also

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 11:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Personally, yes, these & similar are the only times I would use that e.g. > https://goo.gl/maps/ACMTnn6gQJTLz5NF6 (& as always, for illustration > only!) > That sign looks like hgv=no. So no heavy goods vehicles, but anyone else can use

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 09:22, wrote: > > Then there are networks that are clearly signed indicating Transit > traffic is forbidden. These are the only places I would use the > access=destination tag. > Personally, yes, these & similar are the only times I would use that e.g.

Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread forster
oops, forgot to add these Multiple entrances with restricting signage https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-37.83471/145.03179 (Scotch College) Multiple entrances gated and signed (Museum, Carlton Gardens) https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/209893402 Multiple entrances gatedand signed

[talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur

2022-03-20 Thread forster
Hi all Up to now I have only questioned Sebastian (HighRouleur) on his information sources and reasoning on the use of access=destination First going to the wiki: "Transit traffic forbidden, all non-transit traffic to a given element allowed." But I am aware that the wiki does not trump