Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-09-14 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Folks,

 

I suspect most agencies run the ESRI suite of products in the background for 
all their GIS and incident mapping and they may port data or maps to other apps 
(maybe in realtime or daily, weekly or at least seasonally). Collector is an 
ESRI app for collecting field data which is likely fed back in realtime during 
fires to a centralised location for updating maps that may then get pushed back 
to tablets/apps in the field. OK if you have a connection.

 

>From experience, if something doesn’t ‘feel right’ at a fire then folks, 
>especially volunteers, will grab their phone and use what they are familiar 
>with – be it Google, Avenza, OSM or one of many other apps. The further you 
>move from the city the less folks trust Google as its woeful in many areas (as 
>we have all no doubt heard on many occasions).

 

The beauty of exposing folks to OSM is that once they understand the process 
they get the ability to update the maps and see results either immediately or 
on the next update. If you have ever tried getting more remote features updated 
on Google you will know what a hassle that can be (if at all!!).

 

I generally would not consider adding Lot/Plan details to OSM. Generally when 
land is sold/subdivided then addresses are assigned ‘fairly quickly’ and become 
the norm for locating the places.

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Graeme Fitzpatrick  
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2022 4:33 PM
To: stevea 
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

 

Thanks all for thoughts, including yours from over there, Steve!

 

It may be worth approaching "Fire & Rescue" in each State to ask them directly?

 

A bit of feedback from another forum, says that in NSW the RFS still use a lot 
of paper maps, although I of them thinks that officially a system called 
Collector is in use, but he doesn't know t much about it?

 

He & another bloke from Vic RFS both use an "RFS Buddy" app, which gives 
lat/long or grid coords, but doesn't include a map.

 

I've been adding some street numbers to a couple of rural roads that I know 
(using a public source!) - would there be any advantage to including Lot & Plan 
numbers? eg  154 FOREST HOME RD, RATHDOWNEY is Lot 10 of Plan RP178426. If so, 
what would we add them as?

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

PS Good luck with your planned return & career change, Adam!

 

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Re: [talk-au] Boardwalk not rendering

2022-09-14 Thread Ian Steer
Ignore this - I tagged it incorrectly and someone corrected it in the
mean-time

 

Ian

 

From: Ian Steer  
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2022 4:15 PM
To: 'talk-au@openstreetmap.org' 
Subject: Boardwalk not rendering

 

I added some boardwalk into the Cape To Cape walking track (in WA's
southwest) and the Garmin maps I get from https://alternativaslibres.org/
don't render the boardwalk as a track (and my GPSr won't route along it -
not surprisingly).  It renders OK on the OSM "slippy map"

 

Have I done something wrong - or is it a rendering fault?

 

It is tagged as follows:

 

bridge=boardwalk (my sole edit was to add this tag)

highway=footway

motor_vehicle=no (I didn't add this - I think it is a useless tag but I left
it for consistency)

name=Cape to Cape Track

surface=unpaved

width=2

 

Ian

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Re: [talk-au] TomTom - OSM Collaboration

2022-09-14 Thread William Ireland
Hi everyone,

Apologies for the short notice, but I will be rescheduling the TomTom-OSM Open 
Discussion Meeting to Monday, 19 September 2022 8pm AEST.

This change is to better cater for those who wish to join after work hours. 
Thank you to those who provided me with this feedback.

Again, here are the meeting invitation details:
Meeting ID: 352 839 577 627
Passcode: LMhZkV

I look forward to talking with you all.
Will

From: William Ireland
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2022 5:51 PM
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [talk-au] TomTom - OSM Collaboration

Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your informative and welcoming responses so far! We have 
taken all your suggestions and concerns on board and shared them internally. 
Please continue to watch this space and we will be sure to communicate all 
details of the upcoming projects. Again, please feel free to raise any further 
ideas to this email trail.

For those who are interested, I will be hosting an open discussion meeting on 
Microsoft Teams on Thursday, 15 September 2022 from 2-3pm (AEST Time) for OSM 
Members. Feel free to join and discuss potential new collaboration ideas or to 
raise any thoughts or questions. Meeting invitation details are below:

Meeting ID: 352 839 577 627
Passcode: LMhZkV

Thank you again,
Will

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[talk-au] Boardwalk not rendering

2022-09-14 Thread Ian Steer
I added some boardwalk into the Cape To Cape walking track (in WA's
southwest) and the Garmin maps I get from https://alternativaslibres.org/
don't render the boardwalk as a track (and my GPSr won't route along it -
not surprisingly).  It renders OK on the OSM "slippy map"

 

Have I done something wrong - or is it a rendering fault?

 

It is tagged as follows:

 

bridge=boardwalk (my sole edit was to add this tag)

highway=footway

motor_vehicle=no (I didn't add this - I think it is a useless tag but I left
it for consistency)

name=Cape to Cape Track

surface=unpaved

width=2

 

Ian

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Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-09-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks all for thoughts, including yours from over there, Steve!

It may be worth approaching "Fire & Rescue" in each State to ask them
directly?

A bit of feedback from another forum, says that in NSW the RFS still use a
lot of paper maps, although I of them thinks that officially a system
called Collector is in use, but he doesn't know t much about it?

He & another bloke from Vic RFS both use an "RFS Buddy" app, which gives
lat/long or grid coords, but doesn't include a map.

I've been adding some street numbers to a couple of rural roads that I know
(using a public source!) - would there be any advantage to including Lot &
Plan numbers? eg  154 FOREST HOME RD, RATHDOWNEY is Lot 10 of Plan
RP178426. If so, what would we add them as?

Thanks

Graeme

PS Good luck with your planned return & career change, Adam!
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