Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
I finally figured out that when it's type=route, osm2pgsql changes the field name to route_name so I've updated the database and configs to show route_name. In the example below, the ways are tagged with local street names, but the highway has no name or ref, but instead the highway name and

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-19 Thread BlueMM
John Smith-129 wrote: [[snip]] Does anyone think this is a good idea? Use network=D for D classified roads, if they exist. Use network=detour for NSW classified detour routes Use network=alt_NR for Alternate NR routes Sounds like a good idea to me -- View this message in context:

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-19 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me I've updated the tagging guidelines to reflect this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Route_Numbers ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread BlueMM
John Smith-129 wrote: --- On Mon, 17/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: But my point was if they *are* consistent (same shield design), why specify state? Consistent to what? Some states have gone to a alphanumeric system, some use the old NH shields and those with the

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, BlueMM wrote: That website appears inaccurate. It says the state route marker is no longer used in Vic, but there is a route with that marker a block away from me right now. Also, the M1/7 example appears wrong, AFAIK, the one used in VIC is more like the NSW one, without

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread John Smith
I'm going to be adding Tourist Route Shields to the map shortly but in the process of looking for a graphic I came across this page on wikipedia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Route_shields_of_Australia It lists shields for a number of things like Alt National Route, and on one of

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-18 Thread b . schulz . 10
D roads certainly do exist, however at times the signs are covered over/folded up etc. The one I know for certain is a Pacific Highway detour which heads West from Nabiac and goes up to Krambach: http://osm.org/go/uaQzXe_ After that I don't know where it goes. There's a D sign at this

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-17 Thread BlueMM
John Smith-129 wrote: --- On Mon, 17/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: A few questions: 1. I presume the addr:country=Australia is manditory for this to work, but :state optional? I could imagine only needing state for state specific sheilds (ie. nationally consistent ones

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: But my point was if they *are* consistent (same shield design), why specify state? Consistent to what? Some states have gone to a alphanumeric system, some use the old NH shields and those with the alphanumeric system have

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread John Smith
Also they talk about only adding ref's to relations that have the entire highway. The other reason to use relations instead of tagging individual sections of ways is consistency, a lot of highways are badly or inconsistently tagged, if all the ways are part of the same highway they will be

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread Liz
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: Also they talk about only adding ref's to relations that have the entire highway. The other reason to use relations instead of tagging individual sections of ways is consistency, a lot of highways are badly or inconsistently tagged, if all the ways

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: It might be good to put the name and the ref in different relations, for example, A1 continues past Carins, but it changes name from the Bruce Highway to the Captain Cook Highway. that I did see in May In this example there would be 3 relations, 1 for

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: would you break the relations at State borders or not? I have been for the ref=* relation because I'm adding addr:country=Australia, addr:state=QLD so that different state sheilds can be displayed different. I didn't really think

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread John Smith
This is the current relation tags I've come up with based on the talk-us threads. Ref Relation tags: addr:country=Australia addr:state=QLD network=A ref=1 route=road type=route Name Relation tags: name=Bruce Highway route=road type=route

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: would you break the relations at State borders or not? I have been for the ref=* relation because I'm adding addr:country=Australia, addr:state=QLD so that different state shields can be displayed differently. OK, a reason to split - I couldn't think of

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: OK, a reason to split - I couldn't think of any reason either way The Savannah Way goes from QLD to WA, it's one route and I can't think of a good reason to split it. There is a system limitation of 1000 ways per relation, the

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread BlueMM
John Smith-129 wrote: This is the current relation tags I've come up with based on the talk-us threads. Ref Relation tags: addr:country=Australia addr:state=QLD network=A ref=1 route=road type=route Name Relation tags: name=Bruce Highway route=road type=route Nice work

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-16 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: A few questions: 1. I presume the addr:country=Australia is manditory for this to work, but :state optional? I could imagine only needing state for state specific sheilds (ie. nationally consistent ones wouldn't need state). The

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-15 Thread John Smith
Also they talk about only adding ref's to relations that have the entire highway. I've been playing about with this marking a tourist route and this makes a lot of sense. When highways and/or tourist routes share the same physical piece of road you can have each with it's own relation route,

Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-14 Thread Ben Kelley
Personally I like Ref=56 Network=au_nh Over Ref=NH56 Because the ref really is 56. -Ben. -Original Message- From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Sent: 14 August 2009 22:26 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across