Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[nwastra]

Ok, in light of that, adding all the LPI street numbers to Tathra seems not 
reasonable and would be considered a mass import of addresses and not just 
'filling in the gaps', so I won’t go ahead with the adding of addresses to the 
buildings.
There are plenty of residents more able to accurately add the data if they want 
to anyway to a smallish town.
Tks
Nev

> On 22 Mar 2018, at 9:50 AM, Andrew Harvey  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but keep in mind that LPI's view from 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Government_Data
>  
> 
>  is "Unless a downstream users of OpenStreetMap can clearly identify LPI data 
> within their own derivative work it would not be reasonable for them to 
> attribute LPI."
> 
> That's a bit like the substantial extract guideline from the OSMF, in that 
> their permission for the OSM approach to attribution wouldn't extend to 
> extracting all street addresses from LPI and using that in OSM. So long as 
> we're only filling in the gaps here and there it's okay, but we can't mass 
> import everything from the LPI base map under the current permission.
> 
> I'm working on getting the OSMF CC BY waiver signed too, and they've 
> mentioned the possibility of opening more datasets under CC BY, but both of 
> those are likely at least a few months away.
> 
> On 22 March 2018 at 01:53, nwastra  > wrote:
> I found this discussion from Jan 2017 which discusses the street numbers on 
> the LPI NSW Base Map and it seems I can use the info in the OSM
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-January/011175.html 
> 
> 
> The house numbers are not the same number as the lot/parcel numbers in my 
> area in se Qld. 
> 
> So a further question
> Can the LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers be used as correct house 
> numbers, aside from the possibility of having multiple units on one parcel.
> 
> Nev
> 
> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:13 pm, nwastra  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel 
>> numbers, to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the LPI 
>> imagery in Tathra recently? 
>> Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if it is 
>> permissible to use them on the OSM.
>> 
>> https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN 
>> 
>> Nev
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Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[Andrew Harvey]

Yes, but keep in mind that LPI's view from
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Government_Data
is "Unless a downstream users of OpenStreetMap can clearly identify LPI
data within their own derivative work it would not be reasonable for them
to attribute LPI."

That's a bit like the substantial extract guideline from the OSMF, in that
their permission for the OSM approach to attribution wouldn't extend to
extracting all street addresses from LPI and using that in OSM. So long as
we're only filling in the gaps here and there it's okay, but we can't mass
import everything from the LPI base map under the current permission.

I'm working on getting the OSMF CC BY waiver signed too, and they've
mentioned the possibility of opening more datasets under CC BY, but both of
those are likely at least a few months away.

On 22 March 2018 at 01:53, nwastra  wrote:

> I found this discussion from Jan 2017 which discusses the street numbers
> on the LPI NSW Base Map and it seems I can use the info in the OSM
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-January/011175.html
>
> The house numbers are not the same number as the lot/parcel numbers in my
> area in se Qld.
>
> So a further question
> Can the LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers be used as correct house
> numbers, aside from the possibility of having multiple units on one parcel.
>
> Nev
>
> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:13 pm, nwastra  wrote:
>
> Hi
> can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel
> numbers, to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the LPI
> imagery in Tathra recently?
> Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if it is
> permissible to use them on the OSM.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN
>
> Nev
>
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Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[nwastra]

Tks, all the LPI stuff is a fantastic resource.
Nev

> On 22 Mar 2018, at 5:44 am, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> They are house numbers and can be used in OSM. 
> 
>> On 22/03/18 01:53, nwastra wrote:
>> I found this discussion from Jan 2017 which discusses the street numbers on 
>> the LPI NSW Base Map and it seems I can use the info in the OSM
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-January/011175.html
>> 
>> The house numbers are not the same number as the lot/parcel numbers in my 
>> area in se Qld. 
>> 
>> So a further question
>> Can the LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers be used as correct house 
>> numbers, aside from the possibility of having multiple units on one parcel.
>> 
>> Nev
>> 
>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:13 pm, nwastra  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel 
>>> numbers, to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the LPI 
>>> imagery in Tathra recently? 
>>> Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if it is 
>>> permissible to use them on the OSM.
>>> 
>>> https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN
>>> 
>>> Nev
>> 
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Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[Warin]

They are house numbers and can be used in OSM.

On 22/03/18 01:53, nwastra wrote:
I found this discussion from Jan 2017 which discusses the street 
numbers on the LPI NSW Base Map and it seems I can use the info in the 
OSM

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-January/011175.html

The house numbers are not the same number as the lot/parcel numbers in 
my area in se Qld.


So a further question
Can the LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers be used as correct house 
numbers, aside from the possibility of having multiple units on one 
parcel.


Nev

On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:13 pm, nwastra > wrote:



Hi
can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel 
numbers, to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the 
LPI imagery in Tathra recently?
Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if 
it is permissible to use them on the OSM.


https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN

Nev



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[talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[nwastra]

I found this discussion from Jan 2017 which discusses the street numbers on the 
LPI NSW Base Map and it seems I can use the info in the OSM
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-January/011175.html

The house numbers are not the same number as the lot/parcel numbers in my area 
in se Qld. 

So a further question
Can the LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers be used as correct house numbers, 
aside from the possibility of having multiple units on one parcel.

Nev

> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:13 pm, nwastra  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel numbers, 
> to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the LPI imagery in 
> Tathra recently? 
> Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if it is 
> permissible to use them on the OSM.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN
> 
> Nev
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[talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

[nwastra]

Hi
can I use from the LPI NSW Base Map what I presume to be land parcel numbers, 
to add house numbers to houses I have mapped using only the LPI imagery in 
Tathra recently? 
Not sure if they are lot numbers or house numbers on Base Map or if it is 
permissible to use them on the OSM.

https://imgur.com/a/OxuPN 

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