[talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread Kristy Van Putten
Hi All,
I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please email 
me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts on the 
current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government can 
assist in.
Cheers

Kristy Van Putten
kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread Ross

Hi Kristy,

I'm not in the ACT but the following would be nice data to add and could 
be done by anyone if licenced appropriately.



Addresses

In a ESRI shape file or osm file geocoded like the Vic, Tas and Qld. 
Victorian and Tasmanian are the best examples have a look at 
thelist.tas.gov.au or data.vic.gov.au


Building outlines.

In an ESRI shape file or osm file geocoded like the Launceston and 
Glenorchy City Council data on thelist.tas.gov.au also.


Road centerlines with names.

As a wms layer same as at thelist.tas.gov.au

This is not overly necessary as most of the names can be deduced from 
the address data.  Just sometimes there is short streets where there is 
no actual property with an address so it can be looked up. Also where 
one road changes names partway along the road with no discernable 
intersection.


Cheers
Ross


On 05/05/15 16:11, Kristy Van Putten wrote:

Hi All,
I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please email 
me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts on the 
current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government can 
assist in.
Cheers

Kristy Van Putten
kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread kristy van putten
Thanks Jason,
This is a great tool!
The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA
leading in the geospatial front.  What we need to get our heads around is
the difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL.
Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working
with spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools.
I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the
world - your right this might shed a light on potential assistance.  As
Andrew just pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I
will look into this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially
ACT to start with).
I will start to contact the super users in ACT.
Cheers



On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kristy,

 Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this
 list.  To help you in your search the following link may prove useful
 (Suggest unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a
 closer measure of 'active' contributors)


 http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.17885layers=B00FTT

 While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the
 whole of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with
 suitable licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the
 small contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the
 application of resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort
 of government advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being
 to build the local contributor base.

 To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of
 on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of
 government information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience,
 your time would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in
 other parts of the world (some good, others less so), as well as
 subscribing to the @imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into
 the workings OSM members apply to externally supplied information.


 Cheers,

 Jason
 M: 0438740049

 On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi All,
 I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please
 email me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts
 on the current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the
 government can assist in.
 Cheers

 Kristy Van Putten
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread Jason Ward
Hi Kristy,

Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this
list.  To help you in your search the following link may prove useful
(Suggest unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a
closer measure of 'active' contributors)

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.17885layers=B00FTT

While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the
whole of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with
suitable licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the
small contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the
application of resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort
of government advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being
to build the local contributor base.

To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of
on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of
government information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience,
your time would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in
other parts of the world (some good, others less so), as well as
subscribing to the @imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into
the workings OSM members apply to externally supplied information.


Cheers,

Jason
M: 0438740049

On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi All,
 I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please
 email me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts
 on the current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the
 government can assist in.
 Cheers

 Kristy Van Putten
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread Nathanael Coyne
I'm here.



Nathanael Coyne (Boehm)

www.purecaffeine.com

Canberra, Australia
0431 698 580

On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi All,
 I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please
 email me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts
 on the current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the
 government can assist in.
 Cheers

 Kristy Van Putten
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Thread Simon . Costello
Thanks Kristy, I would support the idea of discerning the difference between 
CCBY and ODBL.  THe intent of the open data policy is to make data useable with 
minimal restriction, and ODBL seems to be an appropriate instrument for 
handling this in database format.  CCBY seems ok for maps but not for databases.

I got in touch with OSM contributor Michael Cleary last week who was visiting 
GA as part of the Power of Maps conference.  He outlined pretty well what he 
sees the issues are viz ODBL vs CCBY4.0.  I am beginning to get a clearer 
picture on what these issues are and am keen to get it resolved, but will need 
continued feedback from the OSM community on this.

This is also worth bringing up in the Foundation Spatial Data Framework policy 
discussions which I am heavily involved in.  FSDF also needs to consider the 
role of volunteered geographic information in the update of national foundation 
spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to have OSM involved in 
those discussions.  The use cases included in the email trail are excellent 
examples of the need to get this sorted.

Thanks,
Simon

Simon Costello
Branch Head, National Location Information  |  EGD Management
Environmental Geoscience Division  |  GEOSCIENCE AUSTRALIA

Phone:  +61 2 6249 9716tel:+61%202%206249%209716Fax:  +61 2 6249 
tel:+61%202%206249%20
Email:  simon.coste...@ga.gov.aumailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.auWeb:  
www.ga.gov.auhttp://www.ga.gov.au/
Cnr Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive Symonston ACT
GPO Box 378 Canberra ACT 2601 Australiax-apple-data-detectors://3
Applying geoscience to Australia’s most important challenges



On 5 May 2015, at 5:00 pm, kristy van putten 
kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Jason,
This is a great tool!
The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA 
leading in the geospatial front.  What we need to get our heads around is the 
difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL.
Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working with 
spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools.
I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the world 
- your right this might shed a light on potential assistance.  As Andrew just 
pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I will look into 
this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially ACT to start with).
I will start to contact the super users in ACT.
Cheers



On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward 
jasonjwa...@gmail.commailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kristy,

Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this list. 
 To help you in your search the following link may prove useful (Suggest 
unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a closer 
measure of 'active' contributors)

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.17885layers=B00FTT

While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the whole 
of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with suitable 
licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the small 
contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the application of 
resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort of government 
advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being to build the 
local contributor base.

To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of 
on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of government 
information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience, your time 
would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in other parts 
of the world (some good, others less so), as well as subscribing to the 
@imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into the workings OSM members 
apply to externally supplied information.


Cheers,

Jason
M: 0438740049tel:0438740049

On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten 
kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please email 
me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts on the 
current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government can 
assist in.
Cheers

Kristy Van Putten
kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
0414844825tel:0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

2015-05-05 Thread Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
Hi Kristy,

I am not in ACT (Tassie based) but I would agree with all of the below as well 
as an open portal site where folks can download open data.

http://listdata.thelist.tas.gov.au/opendata/ 

Specifically, it would great if agencies explicitly mentioned in their 
licencing or use documentation that the data is available(or not) for use under 
OSM Open Database Licence

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License 


Cheers - Phil

-Original Message-
From: Ross [mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2015 4:56 PM
To: Kristy Van Putten; talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT

Hi Kristy,

I'm not in the ACT but the following would be nice data to add and could be 
done by anyone if licenced appropriately.


Addresses

In a ESRI shape file or osm file geocoded like the Vic, Tas and Qld. 
Victorian and Tasmanian are the best examples have a look at 
thelist.tas.gov.au or data.vic.gov.au

Building outlines.

In an ESRI shape file or osm file geocoded like the Launceston and 
Glenorchy City Council data on thelist.tas.gov.au also.

Road centerlines with names.

As a wms layer same as at thelist.tas.gov.au

This is not overly necessary as most of the names can be deduced from 
the address data.  Just sometimes there is short streets where there is 
no actual property with an address so it can be looked up. Also where 
one road changes names partway along the road with no discernable 
intersection.

Cheers
Ross


On 05/05/15 16:11, Kristy Van Putten wrote:
 Hi All,
 I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please 
 email me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts 
 on the current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government 
 can assist in.
 Cheers

 Kristy Van Putten
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 0414844825



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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Thread Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
Hi Folks,

If you have any specific legal questions re ODBL, the OpenStreetMap 
Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at le...@osmfoundation.org 
and will be glad to help.


Cheers - Phil
OSM mapper - tastrax
Kiva Lender, Thin Green Line Supporter, Volunteer Mapper - Red Cross, Wildcare 
Volunteer



-Original Message-
From: simon.coste...@ga.gov.au [mailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2015 7:12 PM
To: kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Thanks Kristy, I would support the idea of discerning the difference between 
CCBY and ODBL.  THe intent of the open data policy is to make data useable with 
minimal restriction, and ODBL seems to be an appropriate instrument for 
handling this in database format.  CCBY seems ok for maps but not for databases.

I got in touch with OSM contributor Michael Cleary last week who was visiting 
GA as part of the Power of Maps conference.  He outlined pretty well what he 
sees the issues are viz ODBL vs CCBY4.0.  I am beginning to get a clearer 
picture on what these issues are and am keen to get it resolved, but will need 
continued feedback from the OSM community on this.

This is also worth bringing up in the Foundation Spatial Data Framework policy 
discussions which I am heavily involved in.  FSDF also needs to consider the 
role of volunteered geographic information in the update of national foundation 
spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to have OSM involved in 
those discussions.  The use cases included in the email trail are excellent 
examples of the need to get this sorted.

Thanks,
Simon

Simon Costello
Branch Head, National Location Information  |  EGD Management Environmental 
Geoscience Division  |  GEOSCIENCE AUSTRALIA 

Phone:  +61 2 6249 9716tel:+61%202%206249%209716Fax:  +61 2 6249 
tel:+61%202%206249%20
Email:  simon.coste...@ga.gov.aumailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.auWeb:  
www.ga.gov.auhttp://www.ga.gov.au/
Cnr Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive Symonston ACT GPO Box 378 Canberra 
ACT 2601 Australiax-apple-data-detectors://3
Applying geoscience to Australia’s most important challenges



On 5 May 2015, at 5:00 pm, kristy van putten 
kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Jason,
This is a great tool!
The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA 
leading in the geospatial front.  What we need to get our heads around is the 
difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL.
Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working with 
spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools.
I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the world 
- your right this might shed a light on potential assistance.  As Andrew just 
pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I will look into 
this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially ACT to start with).
I will start to contact the super users in ACT.
Cheers



On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward 
jasonjwa...@gmail.commailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kristy,

Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this list. 
 To help you in your search the following link may prove useful (Suggest 
unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a closer 
measure of 'active' contributors)

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.17885layers=B00FTT

While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the whole 
of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with suitable 
licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the small 
contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the application of 
resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort of government 
advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being to build the 
local contributor base.

To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of 
on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of government 
information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience, your time 
would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in other parts 
of the world (some good, others less so), as well as subscribing to the 
@imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into the workings OSM members 
apply to externally supplied information.


Cheers,

Jason
M: 0438740049tel:0438740049

On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten 
kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please email 
me or contact me via my mobile.  I am interested to get your thoughts on the 
current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government can 
assist

Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've also asked on legal-talk to try to find out what extra
permissions on top of CC-BY are needed for potential inclusion in OSM
at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-May/008127.html

On 5 May 2015 at 20:37, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt p...@wyatt-family.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 If you have any specific legal questions re ODBL, the OpenStreetMap 
 Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at le...@osmfoundation.org 
 and will be glad to help.


 Cheers - Phil
 OSM mapper - tastrax
 Kiva Lender, Thin Green Line Supporter, Volunteer Mapper - Red Cross, 
 Wildcare Volunteer



 -Original Message-
 From: simon.coste...@ga.gov.au [mailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.au]
 Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2015 7:12 PM
 To: kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 Thanks Kristy, I would support the idea of discerning the difference between 
 CCBY and ODBL.  THe intent of the open data policy is to make data useable 
 with minimal restriction, and ODBL seems to be an appropriate instrument for 
 handling this in database format.  CCBY seems ok for maps but not for 
 databases.

 I got in touch with OSM contributor Michael Cleary last week who was visiting 
 GA as part of the Power of Maps conference.  He outlined pretty well what he 
 sees the issues are viz ODBL vs CCBY4.0.  I am beginning to get a clearer 
 picture on what these issues are and am keen to get it resolved, but will 
 need continued feedback from the OSM community on this.

 This is also worth bringing up in the Foundation Spatial Data Framework 
 policy discussions which I am heavily involved in.  FSDF also needs to 
 consider the role of volunteered geographic information in the update of 
 national foundation spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to 
 have OSM involved in those discussions.  The use cases included in the email 
 trail are excellent examples of the need to get this sorted.

 Thanks,
 Simon

 Simon Costello
 Branch Head, National Location Information  |  EGD Management Environmental 
 Geoscience Division  |  GEOSCIENCE AUSTRALIA 
 
 Phone:  +61 2 6249 9716tel:+61%202%206249%209716Fax:  +61 2 6249 
 tel:+61%202%206249%20
 Email:  simon.coste...@ga.gov.aumailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.auWeb:  
 www.ga.gov.auhttp://www.ga.gov.au/
 Cnr Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive Symonston ACT GPO Box 378 
 Canberra ACT 2601 Australiax-apple-data-detectors://3
 Applying geoscience to Australia’s most important challenges



 On 5 May 2015, at 5:00 pm, kristy van putten 
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jason,
 This is a great tool!
 The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA 
 leading in the geospatial front.  What we need to get our heads around is the 
 difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL.
 Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working with 
 spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools.
 I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the 
 world - your right this might shed a light on potential assistance.  As 
 Andrew just pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I 
 will look into this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially 
 ACT to start with).
 I will start to contact the super users in ACT.
 Cheers



 On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward 
 jasonjwa...@gmail.commailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kristy,

 Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this 
 list.  To help you in your search the following link may prove useful 
 (Suggest unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a 
 closer measure of 'active' contributors)

 http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.17885layers=B00FTT

 While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the 
 whole of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with 
 suitable licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the 
 small contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the 
 application of resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort 
 of government advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being 
 to build the local contributor base.

 To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of 
 on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of 
 government information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience, 
 your time would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in 
 other parts of the world (some good, others less so), as well as subscribing 
 to the @imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into the workings 
 OSM members apply to externally supplied information.


 Cheers,

 Jason
 M: 0438740049tel

Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Thread Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
Hi Folks,

There are some sample letters available at

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission

I have sent one such email to the Tasmanian Government seeking permissions for 
any datasets on the Open Data Portal site. I will let you know what response I 
get. They may come back allowing only certain sets but I thought I may as well 
ask for the lot initially!

Cheers - Phil

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2015 8:48 PM
To: Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
Cc: simon.coste...@ga.gov.au; kristy van putten; OSM Australian Talk List
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

I've also asked on legal-talk to try to find out what extra permissions on top 
of CC-BY are needed for potential inclusion in OSM at 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-May/008127.html

On 5 May 2015 at 20:37, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt p...@wyatt-family.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 If you have any specific legal questions re ODBL, the OpenStreetMap 
 Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at le...@osmfoundation.org 
 and will be glad to help.


 Cheers - Phil
 OSM mapper - tastrax
 Kiva Lender, Thin Green Line Supporter, Volunteer Mapper - Red Cross, 
 Wildcare Volunteer



 -Original Message-
 From: simon.coste...@ga.gov.au [mailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.au]
 Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2015 7:12 PM
 To: kristy.vanput...@gmail.com
 Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 Thanks Kristy, I would support the idea of discerning the difference between 
 CCBY and ODBL.  THe intent of the open data policy is to make data useable 
 with minimal restriction, and ODBL seems to be an appropriate instrument for 
 handling this in database format.  CCBY seems ok for maps but not for 
 databases.

 I got in touch with OSM contributor Michael Cleary last week who was visiting 
 GA as part of the Power of Maps conference.  He outlined pretty well what he 
 sees the issues are viz ODBL vs CCBY4.0.  I am beginning to get a clearer 
 picture on what these issues are and am keen to get it resolved, but will 
 need continued feedback from the OSM community on this.

 This is also worth bringing up in the Foundation Spatial Data Framework 
 policy discussions which I am heavily involved in.  FSDF also needs to 
 consider the role of volunteered geographic information in the update of 
 national foundation spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to 
 have OSM involved in those discussions.  The use cases included in the email 
 trail are excellent examples of the need to get this sorted.

 Thanks,
 Simon

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 On 5 May 2015, at 5:00 pm, kristy van putten 
 kristy.vanput...@gmail.commailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jason,
 This is a great tool!
 The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA 
 leading in the geospatial front.  What we need to get our heads around is the 
 difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL.
 Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working with 
 spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools.
 I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the 
 world - your right this might shed a light on potential assistance.  As 
 Andrew just pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I 
 will look into this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially 
 ACT to start with).
 I will start to contact the super users in ACT.
 Cheers



 On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward 
 jasonjwa...@gmail.commailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kristy,

 Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to 
 this list.  To help you in your search the following link may prove 
 useful (Suggest unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left 
 corner for a closer measure of 'active' contributors)

 http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11lat=-35.29175lon=149.1788
 5layers=B00FTT

 While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the 
 whole of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with 
 suitable licence clearances for use in OSM.  Despite that and noting the 
 small contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the 
 application of resources to help with the contribution