Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread forster
Hi Frederik This reminds me of a thread that I started on this list about 2 years ago. It related to illegal mountain bike tracks in Lysterfield Park, Victoria Australia. The construction and use of unauthorized trails is illegal with large penalties (though I have never heard of a

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Tony, On 9/11/19 21:31, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > The construction and use of unauthorized trails is illegal with large > penalties (though I have never heard of a prosecution). Are there sources that are not restricted by copyright that we could use to determine which trails are

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 06:23, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 9/11/19 21:31, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > The construction and use of unauthorized trails is illegal with large > > penalties (though I have never heard of a prosecution). > > Are there sources that are not restricted by copyright

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 12/9/19 05:31, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Since then the pressure from the mountain bike community to has map everything has reduced,  presumably the mountain bike  community has realized that OSM is one of the tools the authorities use to locate illegal trails. That's only going to

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 13:45, Greg Lauer wrote: > Hi Frederick, > > There is 'authoratative' data available for NPWS estate - > https://data.nsw.gov.au/data/dataset?q=NPWS+track===_format=_id==score+desc%2C+metadata_modified+desc > and > we have a waiver - >

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 23:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > the DWG was drawn into an edit war regarding several paths that were > mapped in this area: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-34.3740/150.8761 > > The argument is about in how far the (largely north-south running) paths > are

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12.09.19 06:27, Andrew Harvey wrote: > It's always better to have this mapped based on confirmations on the > ground, and it appears in this case that the local mapper Zhent, has > been mapping based on local knowledge. I have a feeling that Zhent's "foot=yes" might not mean "there is a

[talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Greg Lauer
Hi Frederick, There is 'authoratative' data available for NPWS estate - https://data.nsw.gov.au/data/dataset?q=NPWS+track===_format=_id==score+desc%2C+metadata_modified+desc and we have a waiver - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue. The problem is that the data is not

[talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the DWG was drawn into an edit war regarding several paths that were mapped in this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-34.3740/150.8761 The argument is about in how far the (largely north-south running) paths are "illegal" and whether they need to be removed from the map because